On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 6:07 PM Deirdre Connolly <durumcrustu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The CNSA 2.0 FAQ states, "Do not use a hybrid or other non-standardized QR
> solution on NSS mission systems except for those exceptions NSA
> specifically recommends to meet standardization or  interoperability
> requirements", and, "because NSA is confident that CNSA 2.0 algorithms will
> sufficiently protect NSS, it does not require a  hybrid solution for
> security purposes." They specifically cite IKEv2 as a hybrid exception.
>
>
> https://media.defense.gov/2022/Sep/07/2003071836/-1/-1/0/CSI_CNSA_2.0_FAQ_.PDF
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024, 8:37 PM Andrey Jivsov <cry...@brainhub.org> wrote:
>
>> The reality is that we have very tight deadlines from CNSA2.0, with
>>> customers actively asking for post-quantum support. For those for whom
>>> those
>>> requirements apply, use of ML-DSA is not only uncontroversial, but
>>> mandatory.
>>
>>
>> CNSA 2.0, as clarified in a recent FAQ, does not prohibit ML-DSA+ECC.
>>
>>
It is the strongest quote from NSA, but I read it as not a clear
prohibition of ECC, and the adjacent text elaborates that the main concern
is complexity.

The CNSA 2.0 reads:

"Even though hybrid solutions may be allowed or required due to protocol
standards, product availability, or interoperability requirements, CNSA 2.0
algorithms will become mandatory to select at the given date, and selecting
CNSA 1.0 algorithms alone will no longer be approved."

So, if TLS offers ML-DSA+ECC as the only option with ML-DSA, selecting it
seems to meet CNSA 2.0, by focusing on the argument that this is the ML-DSA
choice, and the ECC part does not count.
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