Hi,

NIST has released draft standards for ML-KEM, ML-DSA, and ML-SLH. Final 
standards are expected in Q1 2024.
https://csrc.nist.gov/news/2023/three-draft-fips-for-post-quantum-cryptography

I would like to have standard track TLS (and DTLS, QUIC) RFCs for ML-KEM and 
ML-DSA (all security levels standardized by NIST) as soon as possible after the 
final NIST standards are ready. 3GPP is relying almost exclusively on IETF RFCs 
for uses of public key cryptography (the exception is ECIES for IMSI encryption 
but that will likely use HPKE with ML-KEM in the future).

Looking at the TLS document list, it seems severely lacking when it comes to 
ML-KEM, ML-DSA…

The adopted draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design is an informal draft dealing with the 
pre-standard Kyber.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design/

AuthKEM is a quite big change to TLS
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wiggers-tls-authkem-psk/

This is not adopted, informal, and dealing with the pre-standard Kyber.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-kyber/

What is the TLS WG plan for quantum-resistant algorithms? My current view is 
that I would like ML-KEM-512, ML-KEM-768, ML-KEM-1024, ML-DSA-44, ML-DSA-65, 
and ML-DSA-87 registered asap. For hybrid key exchange I think X25519 and X448 
are the only options that make sense. For hybrid signing, ECDSA, EdDSA, and RSA 
could all make sense.

Cheers,
John

From: TLS <tls-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org 
<internet-dra...@ietf.org>
Date: Friday, 8 September 2023 at 02:48
To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org <i-d-annou...@ietf.org>
Cc: tls@ietf.org <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design-09.txt
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design-09.txt is now available. It is a
work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF.

   Title:   Hybrid key exchange in TLS 1.3
   Authors: Douglas Stebila
            Scott Fluhrer
            Shay Gueron
   Name:    draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design-09.txt
   Pages:   23
   Dates:   2023-09-07

Abstract:

   Hybrid key exchange refers to using multiple key exchange algorithms
   simultaneously and combining the result with the goal of providing
   security even if all but one of the component algorithms is broken.
   It is motivated by transition to post-quantum cryptography.  This
   document provides a construction for hybrid key exchange in the
   Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol version 1.3.

   Discussion of this work is encouraged to happen on the TLS IETF
   mailing list tls@ietf.org or on the GitHub repository which contains
   the draft: 
https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-c404f4af2592f2f4&q=1&e=367fabf2-370b-4cec-b657-05a8499decf6&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fdstebila%2Fdraft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design/

There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design-09.html

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design-09

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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