> On Apr 11, 2023, at 12:50, Salz, Rich <rs...@akamai.com> wrote:
> 
> I am commenting on 8447bis. This document is just about ready to move 
> forward, but two fixes are needed.
> 
> Why there are Notes still in the doc (e.g., near end of section 6 it says 
> about weaker elliptic curves) and think those should be resolved, one way or 
> another, before advancing out of the WG.

There were still notes in s5 and s6 to draw attention to cipher suite listing 
in light of I-D.ietf-tls-deprecate-obsolete-kex and I guess now John’s I-D too. 
 Joe and I will circle with those authors to make sure we have the appropriate 
coverage.

> Sec 7 adds a note that says the experts "will highly encourage registrants to 
> provide a link" while Sec 13 says experts "ensure the specification is 
> publicly available."  So is that SHOULD or MUST?  (And s/highly/strongly/ IMO)

I can get behind s/highly/strongly:
https://github.com/tlswg/rfc8447bis/pull/39

This tweak was introduced as a result of discussions in Philly (IETF115) to 
address David Schinazi’s comment at the mic. If I remember correctly, the 
discussion was that there’s not really a concern about exhausting the registry 
space because it’s a “string" registry, but we still wanted the DEs to make 
sure the structure is followed, i.e., "EXPORTER:” is included. So … in some 
respects I think of it as a SHOULD, but then that does clash with s13.

I guess the question is as DE, is the guidance going to lead to problems?

> A nit, this line appears multiple times:
>       Setting a "Recommended" column value to Y or D requires Standards
> There should probably be quotes around the letters Y and D, for consistency 
> with other text.

I hope I got ‘em all here:
https://github.com/tlswg/rfc8447bis/pull/38

Cheers,

> A post IETF 116 bump to make sure folks get their reviews in. If you look at 
> the diffs from RFC 8446 you can see not that much has changed. We will also 
> take “I read it and it looks good” response. 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> spt
> 
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