On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 11:41 Hal Murray <halmurray+...@sonic.net> wrote:

>
> say...@gmail.com said:
> > For my part, I'm sick of "IoT" or "SCADA" or "embedded" vendors just
> > endlessly keeping old cipher suites alive. The unwise cost-cutting in
> those
> > areas does not constrain the rest of the internet.
>
> Agreeded, but the software maintainers can't just drop support for X
> because
> it has been deprecated.  There needs to be some plan with a schedule that
> gives downstream users time to get their act in gear.
>
> Should there be an IETF group to help coordinate things like this?  If
> nothing
> else, there should be a RFC explaining the problem to vendors planning to
> ship
> software that can't be updated -- and showing their potential customers
> what
> to consider.
>   Maybe data sheets should list the RFCs they depend upon -- with a big
> red
> arrow nwxt to the ones that have been obsoleted or deprecated.
>
> IoT and embedded are not the only problems.  There are many companies that
> run
> old stable software.  Ubuntu supports LTS releases for 5 years with 5 more
> available for a fee.
>   https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
> Do we have to worry about this area?  Or will the companies like Ubuntu
> take
> care of their customers?
>
Pressure from auditors will force Ubuntu to help their paying customers to
update cryptographic primitives for compliance ?



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