Hi folks, This line of discussion is not appropriate for this mailing list. Please take it elsewhere.
Best, Chris, for the chairs On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tony Rutkowski wrote: > Ruslan, > > Speaking as as a lawyer has participated in many EU proceedings over > several decades, your assertion here is not accurate. A European > Council Resolution is by definition a "legal document." It was adopted > on 14 Dec 2020 after an extensive policy making proceeding and > consultations among EU Members over more than a year, and the subject > of > a vote by a EU governing body. See > https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2020/12/14/encryption-council-adopts-resolution-on-security-through-encryption-and-security-despite-encryption/# > > As the Council's site notes, its Resolutions "set up political > commitments or positions." See > https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/conclusions-resolutions/ > > The point here was that the NCCoE activity - as many similar ones in > other technical bodies - is fully consonant with adopted European policy > (paid for by EU Member taxpayers). It is also properly the subject of > notice by the IETF. What seem inappropriate is characterising > alternative views on these matters as "not fine," or "I'm glad I'm not a > tax payer in a jurisdiction that's encouraging people to weaken the > security properties this WG has tried hard to improve" or denigrating > the integrity of a government agency because they don't agree with your > views. > > It is also worthy of note that shutting down discussion on the IETF TLS > list seems highly dependent on the views being articulated. > > --tony > > On 30-Sep-21 2:30 AM, Ruslan N. Marchenko wrote: >> First of all EC Resolution is not a legal document, it's a legal >> initiative. The resolution is a "call for action" but not an action >> per se - there's no legal consequence other than it is possible to >> bring this initiative now to european parliament. > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls