Hi Martin,

the main issue Ekr is bringing up is that the DTLS handshake happens 
infrequently and it is small in size.
The use of DTLS for protecting application traffic is not impacted by this 
timeout.

Ciao
Hannes

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Duke <martin.h.d...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 8:48 PM
To: Mark Allman <mall...@icsi.berkeley.edu>
Cc: Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com>; draft-ietf-tls-dtls13....@ietf.org; Lars 
Eggert <l...@eggert.org>; Gorry Fairhurst <go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk>; 
<tls@ietf.org> <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Transport Issues in DTLS 1.3

 Thank you Eric (and Mark).

To reiterate, I believe introducing latency regressions with respect to DTLS 
1.2 would be bad for the internet. So what's new in the area under discussion 
is (a) lowering the timeout from 1s to 100ms, and (b) the introduction of ACKs.

I would characterize ekr's reply as making the following points:

(1) *DTLS practice at Mozilla and elsewhere already uses timeouts << 1 sec*
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