> On 30 Nov 2020, at 15:07, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:12 AM Olle E. Johansson <o...@edvina.net > <mailto:o...@edvina.net>> wrote: > > >> On 30 Nov 2020, at 14:08, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com >> <mailto:e...@rtfm.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:36 PM Olle E. Johansson <o...@edvina.net >> <mailto:o...@edvina.net>> wrote: >> >> >> > On 30 Nov 2020, at 01:51, Watson Ladd <watsonbl...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:watsonbl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Dear TLS WG, >> > >> > I think RFC 7627 should update 5056, 5705, and maybe a few more. >> > >> > I noticed these omissions when looking at the kitten draft to use TLS >> > 1.3 exporters. Having these updates would hopefully make clear what >> > uses need to be updated, or at least show where there might be a >> > problem. >> >> On that topic I have to repeat an earlier question that I did not see any >> response to. >> >> SIP is declared in RFC 3261. This draft updates 3261. Does this mean >> that the SIP standard is modified? To be SIP compliant, do one has to >> follow this document too (after publication)? >> >> I’ve gotten a few pointers earlier that ended up with “It’s unclear what an >> RFC update means”. >> >> I would really like it to mean that in order to be SIP compliant, you can not >> use deprecated versions of TLS. >> >> Me too. Unfortunately, my understanding of the way things work is that >> there's >> no formal thing meaning "SIP Compliant". Rather, one complies with a bunch of >> RFCs and so people wouldn't be "RFC XXXX compliant", which isn't really what >> is wanted here. > > Ok - but does this change the meaning of being “RFC 3261” compliant? > > Not to my knowledge. > > Or do we have to say “RFC3261 compliant with the addition of RFC XXXX” where > XXXX is this document? > > Yes.
Which in the end means that the only way to get vendors to move ahead and update their platforms is to write a document that really makes RFC 3261 obsolete. /O
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