Hi Mike, This is a pretty big topic that’s been explored quite a bit. The long term impact of these changes could be very positive. I just published a book on the topic of embracing E2E among other topics after exploring the impact on operators in RFC8404. In other words, both directions were explored to reach a possible way forward with increased security and how to get the control/visibility in order to embrace these changes.
I’m happy to talk more, but fear the length of a thread on this list and may not keep up with it given my current workload. Best regards, Kathleen Sent from my mobile device > On Sep 12, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Michael D'Errico <mike-l...@pobox.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I get a weird feeling that the internet is being hijacked and soon it will be > impossible to reverse course. I have not followed the development of TLS 1.3 > but it seems very different from TLS 1.2. Also TLS 1.2 is very different from > TLS 1.0/1.1 (which are being deprecated). QUIC looked good at a glance, but > it seems to rely on TLS to share key material, and also I'm more than a bit > concerned about its capability to track users. > > Then there's Zoom video conferencing, where everybody working from home or in > virtual school has an audio and video feed streaming to their servers. > Github is owned by Microsoft with some dire consequences. Lots of large > companies trying to be everything to everyone, and it turns out they're cruel. > > Anyone? > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls