I agree that it’s misleading and potentially confusing to newcomers. ETCH sounds like a good alternative.
> On May 11, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Nick Harper > <nharper=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > I see how the name ECHO can be confusing and support renaming it. All of the > proposed replacement names are fine with me. > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:38 PM Rob Sayre <say...@gmail.com > <mailto:say...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:10 AM Benjamin Kaduk <bka...@akamai.com > <mailto:bka...@akamai.com>> wrote: > Hi Rob, > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 10:51:00PM -0700, Rob Sayre wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:43 PM Benjamin Kaduk <bkaduk= > > 40akamai....@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40akamai....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 03:38:33PM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > I rather prefer ECHO. > > > > > > Do you have some arguments to dispel the concerns about confusion, other > > > than > > > your personal preference? > > > > > > > There's no confusion. I couldn't believe the issue was raised (the name > > does not matter). > > I regret to say that I completely fail to understand how you can have > the confidence to make such a blanket statement ("there's no confusion") that > in principle applies to all human beings, without any apparent supporting > evidence. > > I don't believe it makes sense to demand "evidence" on a completely > subjective issue. > > As I wrote in my other email in this thread, not very many people on the > planet are going to need to know what this is. I haven't run into anyone > confused as I've worked on it, and the name was presented 6 months ago at > IETF 106. > > If someone appears and says that they are confused, what are you > going to tell them? > > That all of the proposals collide with other meanings too (ETH, ETCH, etc). > This is one reason we expand acronyms on first use in IETF documents. > > I don't think there's confusion here, but just preferences and annoyances. > The choice also doesn't matter to me. > > thanks, > Rob > > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org <mailto:TLS@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
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