Hi there,

I just found an English version of SM4 specification translated by Whitfield 
Diffie when he was working at Sun Microsystem. Posted that file at:

https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/raw/master/sm-en-pdfs/sm4/diffie-sm4.pdf
 
<https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/raw/master/sm-en-pdfs/sm4/diffie-sm4.pdf>

This could be use as a reference as well.

Thanks

> On Aug 23, 2019, at 12:08 AM, Paul Yang 
> <kaishen.yy=40antfin....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Signed PGP part
> Hi there,
> 
> Just to keep the it consistent with what previous email said - the Markdown 
> file of the draft has been pushed to the repo:
> 
> https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec 
> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec>
> 
> Please check:
> 
> https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/blob/master/BUILD.md 
> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/blob/master/BUILD.md>
> 
> for detailed information.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:57 PM, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL 
>> <u...@ll.mit.edu <mailto:u...@ll.mit.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> >  A side note: we will also upload the Markdown file of this draft into the 
>> > same git
>>         >  repository at https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec 
>> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> later to make it a totally
>>         >  public involved progress.
>> 
>> I think this is exactly what was needed/asked-for. Thank you!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Kepeng Li <kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com 
>>> <mailto:kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Currently, we uploaded some of the referenced documents here:
>>> https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec 
>>> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec>
>>> 
>>> @Rene, Parts 1 and 3 can be found in the link above.
>>> 
>>> Hope it helps.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Kepeng
>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 发件人:李克鹏(易深) <kepeng....@antfin.com <mailto:kepeng....@antfin.com>>
>>>> 发送时间:2019年8月19日(星期一) 17:38
>>>> 收件人:sean+ietf <sean+i...@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean+i...@sn3rd.com>>; joe 
>>>> <j...@salowey.net <mailto:j...@salowey.net>>; caw <c...@heapingbits.net 
>>>> <mailto:c...@heapingbits.net>>
>>>> 抄 送:tls@ietf.org <mailto:tls@ietf.org> <tls@ietf.org 
>>>> <mailto:tls@ietf.org>>; "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <u...@ll.mit.edu 
>>>> <mailto:u...@ll.mit.edu>>; Paul Yang 
>>>> <kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org 
>>>> <mailto:kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org>>
>>>> 主 题:Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3
>>>> 
>>>> Hi WG chairs,
>>>> 
>>>> Can we place the referenced documents in the TLS WG GitHub?
>>>> https://github.com/tlswg <https://github.com/tlswg>
>>>> 
>>>> According to the discussion below, this can help people to read and 
>>>> understand the referenced specifications.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>> Kepeng
>>>> 
>>>> 发件人: TLS <tls-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org>> 代表 
>>>> "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <u...@ll.mit.edu <mailto:u...@ll.mit.edu>>
>>>> 日期: 2019年8月18日 星期日 22:08
>>>> 收件人: Paul Yang <kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org 
>>>> <mailto:kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org>>
>>>> 抄送: "tls@ietf.org <mailto:tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org 
>>>> <mailto:tls@ietf.org>>
>>>> 主题: Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3
>>>> 
>>>> IMHO, placing the documents on GitHub would be perfect, and quite 
>>>> sufficient.
>>>> 
>>>> Please make sure to post the name of the repo here. ;/)
>>>> 
>>>> I leave it to others to decide whether they'd want copies of today PDF 
>>>> files sent to the mailing list directly.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Uri
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2019, at 01:03, Paul Yang 
>>>> <kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org 
>>>> <mailto:kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good points.
>>>> 
>>>> The good news is that we have found some English PDFs of SM2, including 
>>>> the missing part 1 and part 3. Will continue to find English translations 
>>>> of other SM standards mentioned in the draft.
>>>> 
>>>> So, if we host a free website, say on Github or so, to provide those docs, 
>>>> is it convenient for you guys? Or should we just drop the   PDF files to 
>>>> this mailing list as attachments?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Rene Struik <rstruik....@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:rstruik....@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Arguably, "national" crypto specifications garnish more stature if these 
>>>> are made available to the pubic by that standard-setting body itself (who, 
>>>> thereby, acts as its authoritative source), without deference to a third 
>>>> party (that may, independently from the originator, enforce document 
>>>> control [e.g., by effectuating technical changes or enforcing controlled 
>>>> dissemination]).
>>>> 
>>>> Since your draft introducing SM cipher suites with TLS1.3 appeals to the 
>>>> authority of a standard-setting authority, easy availability of the full 
>>>> and accredited technical documentation to the IETF community helps in 
>>>> scrutiny and, e.g., evaluating claims in the security considerations 
>>>> section.
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/16/2019 3:06 AM, Kepeng Li wrote:
>>>> Hi Rene and all,
>>>> 
>>>> > Since the ISO documents are not available to the general
>>>> > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available
>>>> > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a
>>>> > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and
>>>> > researchers).
>>>> About the references to ISO documens, I think it is a general issue for 
>>>> IETF drafts.
>>>> 
>>>> How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO 
>>>> documents are often referenced by IETF drafts.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>> Kepeng
>>>> ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>> Re: [TLS] Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3
>>>> 
>>>> Rene Struik <rstruik....@gmail.com <mailto:rstruik....@gmail.com>> Thu, 15 
>>>> August 2019 15:34 UTCShow header 
>>>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/?index=NHbHOGtsR1S5cCr9nWN9_sdyTgg&gbt=1>
>>>> Hi Paul:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried and look up the documents GMT.0009-2012 and GBT.32918.5-2016 on
>>>> the (non-secured) websites you referenced, but only found Chinese
>>>> versions (and Chinese website navigation panels [pardon my poor language
>>>> skills here]). Since the ISO documents are not available to the general
>>>> public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available
>>>> document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a
>>>> reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and
>>>> researchers). Please note that BSI provides its specifications in German
>>>> and English, so as to foster use/study by the community. If the Chinese
>>>> national algorithms would be available in similar form, this would serve
>>>> a similar purpose.
>>>> 
>>>> FYI - I am interested in full details and some time last year I tried to
>>>> download specs, but only Parts 2, 4, and 5 were available [1], [2], [3],
>>>> not Parts 1 and 3.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards, Rene
>>>> 
>>>> [1] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC -
>>>> Part 5 - Parameter Definition (SEMB, July 24, 2018)
>>>> [2] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC -
>>>> Part 2 - Digital Signature Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018)
>>>> [3] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC -
>>>> Part 4 - Public Key Encryption Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018)
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/15/2019 10:16 AM, Paul Yang wrote:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > I have submitted a new internet draft to introduce the SM cipher
>>>> > suites into TLS 1.3 protocol.
>>>> >
>>>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00 
>>>> > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00>
>>>> >
>>>> > SM cryptographic algorithms are originally a set of Chinese national
>>>> > algorithms and now have been (or being) accepted by ISO as
>>>> > international standards, including SM2 signature algorithm, SM3 hash
>>>> > function and SM4 block cipher. These algorithms have already been
>>>> > supported some time ago by several widely used open source
>>>> > cryptographic libraries including OpenSSL, BouncyCastle, Botan, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > Considering TLS1.3 is being gradually adopted in China's internet
>>>> > industry, it's important to have a normative definition on how to use
>>>> > the SM algorithms with TLS1.3, especially for the mobile internet
>>>> > scenario. Ant Financial is the company who develops the market leading
>>>> > mobile app 'Alipay' and supports payment services for Alibaba
>>>> > e-commerce business. We highly are depending on the new TLS1.3
>>>> > protocol for both performance and security purposes. We expect to have
>>>> > more deployment of TLS1.3 capable applications in China's internet
>>>> > industry by this standardization attempts.
>>>> >
>>>> > It's very appreciated to have comments from the IETF TLS list :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Many thanks!
>>>> >
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>>>> 
>>>> Paul Yang
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>> Regards,
>> 
>> Paul Yang
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