Hi there, I just found an English version of SM4 specification translated by Whitfield Diffie when he was working at Sun Microsystem. Posted that file at:
https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/raw/master/sm-en-pdfs/sm4/diffie-sm4.pdf <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/raw/master/sm-en-pdfs/sm4/diffie-sm4.pdf> This could be use as a reference as well. Thanks > On Aug 23, 2019, at 12:08 AM, Paul Yang > <kaishen.yy=40antfin....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hi there, > > Just to keep the it consistent with what previous email said - the Markdown > file of the draft has been pushed to the repo: > > https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec > <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> > > Please check: > > https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/blob/master/BUILD.md > <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec/blob/master/BUILD.md> > > for detailed information. > > Thanks. > >> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:57 PM, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL >> <u...@ll.mit.edu <mailto:u...@ll.mit.edu>> wrote: >> >> > A side note: we will also upload the Markdown file of this draft into the >> > same git >> > repository at https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec >> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> later to make it a totally >> > public involved progress. >> >> I think this is exactly what was needed/asked-for. Thank you! >> >> >>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Kepeng Li <kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com >>> <mailto:kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Currently, we uploaded some of the referenced documents here: >>> https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec >>> <https://github.com/alipay/tls13-sm-spec> >>> >>> @Rene, Parts 1 and 3 can be found in the link above. >>> >>> Hope it helps. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kind Regards >>> Kepeng >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> 发件人:李克鹏(易深) <kepeng....@antfin.com <mailto:kepeng....@antfin.com>> >>>> 发送时间:2019年8月19日(星期一) 17:38 >>>> 收件人:sean+ietf <sean+i...@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean+i...@sn3rd.com>>; joe >>>> <j...@salowey.net <mailto:j...@salowey.net>>; caw <c...@heapingbits.net >>>> <mailto:c...@heapingbits.net>> >>>> 抄 送:tls@ietf.org <mailto:tls@ietf.org> <tls@ietf.org >>>> <mailto:tls@ietf.org>>; "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <u...@ll.mit.edu >>>> <mailto:u...@ll.mit.edu>>; Paul Yang >>>> <kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org >>>> <mailto:kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org>> >>>> 主 题:Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>>> >>>> Hi WG chairs, >>>> >>>> Can we place the referenced documents in the TLS WG GitHub? >>>> https://github.com/tlswg <https://github.com/tlswg> >>>> >>>> According to the discussion below, this can help people to read and >>>> understand the referenced specifications. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> Kepeng >>>> >>>> 发件人: TLS <tls-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org>> 代表 >>>> "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <u...@ll.mit.edu <mailto:u...@ll.mit.edu>> >>>> 日期: 2019年8月18日 星期日 22:08 >>>> 收件人: Paul Yang <kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org >>>> <mailto:kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org>> >>>> 抄送: "tls@ietf.org <mailto:tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org >>>> <mailto:tls@ietf.org>> >>>> 主题: Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>>> >>>> IMHO, placing the documents on GitHub would be perfect, and quite >>>> sufficient. >>>> >>>> Please make sure to post the name of the repo here. ;/) >>>> >>>> I leave it to others to decide whether they'd want copies of today PDF >>>> files sent to the mailing list directly. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Uri >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 17, 2019, at 01:03, Paul Yang >>>> <kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org >>>> <mailto:kaishen.yy=40alipay....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good points. >>>> >>>> The good news is that we have found some English PDFs of SM2, including >>>> the missing part 1 and part 3. Will continue to find English translations >>>> of other SM standards mentioned in the draft. >>>> >>>> So, if we host a free website, say on Github or so, to provide those docs, >>>> is it convenient for you guys? Or should we just drop the PDF files to >>>> this mailing list as attachments? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Rene Struik <rstruik....@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:rstruik....@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Arguably, "national" crypto specifications garnish more stature if these >>>> are made available to the pubic by that standard-setting body itself (who, >>>> thereby, acts as its authoritative source), without deference to a third >>>> party (that may, independently from the originator, enforce document >>>> control [e.g., by effectuating technical changes or enforcing controlled >>>> dissemination]). >>>> >>>> Since your draft introducing SM cipher suites with TLS1.3 appeals to the >>>> authority of a standard-setting authority, easy availability of the full >>>> and accredited technical documentation to the IETF community helps in >>>> scrutiny and, e.g., evaluating claims in the security considerations >>>> section. >>>> >>>> On 8/16/2019 3:06 AM, Kepeng Li wrote: >>>> Hi Rene and all, >>>> >>>> > Since the ISO documents are not available to the general >>>> > public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available >>>> > document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a >>>> > reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and >>>> > researchers). >>>> About the references to ISO documens, I think it is a general issue for >>>> IETF drafts. >>>> >>>> How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO >>>> documents are often referenced by IETF drafts. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> Kepeng >>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— >>>> Re: [TLS] Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3 >>>> >>>> Rene Struik <rstruik....@gmail.com <mailto:rstruik....@gmail.com>> Thu, 15 >>>> August 2019 15:34 UTCShow header >>>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/?index=NHbHOGtsR1S5cCr9nWN9_sdyTgg&gbt=1> >>>> Hi Paul: >>>> >>>> I tried and look up the documents GMT.0009-2012 and GBT.32918.5-2016 on >>>> the (non-secured) websites you referenced, but only found Chinese >>>> versions (and Chinese website navigation panels [pardon my poor language >>>> skills here]). Since the ISO documents are not available to the general >>>> public without payment, it would be helpful to have a freely available >>>> document (in English) from an authoritative source. Having such a >>>> reference available would be helpful to the IETF community (and >>>> researchers). Please note that BSI provides its specifications in German >>>> and English, so as to foster use/study by the community. If the Chinese >>>> national algorithms would be available in similar form, this would serve >>>> a similar purpose. >>>> >>>> FYI - I am interested in full details and some time last year I tried to >>>> download specs, but only Parts 2, 4, and 5 were available [1], [2], [3], >>>> not Parts 1 and 3. >>>> >>>> Best regards, Rene >>>> >>>> [1] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>>> Part 5 - Parameter Definition (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>>> [2] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>>> Part 2 - Digital Signature Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>>> [3] China ECC - Public Key Cryptographic Algorithm SM2 Based on ECC - >>>> Part 4 - Public Key Encryption Algorithm (SEMB, July 24, 2018) >>>> >>>> On 8/15/2019 10:16 AM, Paul Yang wrote: >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I have submitted a new internet draft to introduce the SM cipher >>>> > suites into TLS 1.3 protocol. >>>> > >>>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00 >>>> > <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-00> >>>> > >>>> > SM cryptographic algorithms are originally a set of Chinese national >>>> > algorithms and now have been (or being) accepted by ISO as >>>> > international standards, including SM2 signature algorithm, SM3 hash >>>> > function and SM4 block cipher. These algorithms have already been >>>> > supported some time ago by several widely used open source >>>> > cryptographic libraries including OpenSSL, BouncyCastle, Botan, etc. >>>> > >>>> > Considering TLS1.3 is being gradually adopted in China's internet >>>> > industry, it's important to have a normative definition on how to use >>>> > the SM algorithms with TLS1.3, especially for the mobile internet >>>> > scenario. Ant Financial is the company who develops the market leading >>>> > mobile app 'Alipay' and supports payment services for Alibaba >>>> > e-commerce business. We highly are depending on the new TLS1.3 >>>> > protocol for both performance and security purposes. We expect to have >>>> > more deployment of TLS1.3 capable applications in China's internet >>>> > industry by this standardization attempts. >>>> > >>>> > It's very appreciated to have comments from the IETF TLS list :-) >>>> > >>>> > Many thanks! >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TLS mailing list >>>> > TLS@ietf.org <mailto:TLS@ietf.org> >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>>> > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> email: rstruik....@gmail.com <mailto:rstruik....@gmail.com> | Skype: >>>> rstruik >>>> cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TLS mailing list >>>> TLS@ietf.org <mailto:TLS@ietf.org> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Paul Yang >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TLS mailing list >>>> TLS@ietf.org <mailto:TLS@ietf.org> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >>>> _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list >>>> TLS@ietf.org <mailto:TLS@ietf.org> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Paul Yang > > > Regards, > > Paul Yang > > > Regards, Paul Yang
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