Couldn't a group petition from the IETF request ISO and their member states to 
reconsider the use fee based standards?
This concept is incompatible with most current standards developments, be it in 
the IETF, W3C, or industry consortia as well a with Open Source.

Fee based standards represent an hurdle for innovation and adoption of new 
technology.

thanx,
Anders Rundgren

On 2019-08-18 10:09, Kepeng Li wrote:
Can you point to specific drafts where **normative** references are only 
available for paying a fee?  I guess that there are some, but I don’t know of 
any.

This is one example: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8428.txt

[RNC]; ISO/IEC, "Information technology -- Document Schema Definition Language 
(DSDL) -- Part 2: Regular-grammar-based validation -- RELAX NG", ISO/IEC 19757-2, 
Annex C: RELAX NG Compact syntax, December 2008.

Kind Regards
Kepeng

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发件人:Salz, Rich<rs...@akamai.com>
*日期:*8月16日 23:06
*收件人:*Kepeng Li<kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com>
*输入主题*Re: [TLS] (offline) Re: Draft for SM cipher suites used in TLS1.3


*>*How does the other IETF drafts make the references to ISO documents? ISO 
documents are often referenced by IETF drafts.

Can you point to specific drafts where **normative** references are only 
available for paying a fee?  I guess that there are some, but I don’t know of 
any. Your claim implies definitive knowledge, however.

In general, the IETF tends to dislike using standards where the specification 
is not freely available in English. That last part, in English, is perhaps 
narrow-minded these days, but the IETF works in English.  Also, note that I 
said “tends to dislike” and didn’t claim a hard rule always enforced.  In the 
past, where there have been issues, it has been not uncommon to write 
internet-drafts and publish through CFRG; see 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/cfrg/documents/ for many examples. Sometimes 
they are published as individual stream RFC’s; see 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7091 for a highly applicable example.


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