On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:04 AM Thomas Fossati <thomas.foss...@arm.com>
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> Thanks for presenting this work.  I really like this and I think
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> it'd be really useful for the use cases we have (IoT, M2M).
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> One comment: from a quick skimming of the draft, I'm not sure I
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> understand what the stated expectations on the transport layer are?
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> Since it's cTLS and not cDTLS I'd have thought it's the same as TLS
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> (in-order & reliable) but then I got confused reading section 3.2 [1]:
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>   "The CTLS Record Layer assumes that records are externally framed
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>    (i.e., that the length is already known because it is carried in
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>    a UDP datagram or the like)"
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> On Jabber Ben suggested that one could put CoAP between UDP and cTLS to
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> get in-order & reliable delivery with a datagram transport, but then I'm
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> not sure what the advantage would be since we'd be trading 2 bytes of
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> TLSPlaintext.length with 4 bytes (minimum) of CoAP header?
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The idea here was that you might be in a situation where you had external
framing
anyway. I'm sure we can figure out some way to make that optional.

-Ekr



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> From the Jabber discussion, my current understanding is that there are 2
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> assumptions: a) the transport is in-order & reliable, and 2) there is
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> one TLS record per transport layer packet.
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> Is that the correct interpretation?  If it is, is it not too restrictive
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> a requirement?
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> Cheers, thanks
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> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rescorla-tls-ctls-02#section-3.2
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