Are on etherpad at https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-105-tls
Cut/pasted here (but more readable there): TLS at IETF 105 Tuesday Status update (drafts, code points, etc) -- see the slides CFRG working on PAKE selection; integration with TLS is obviously important, come to CFRG meeting. Delegated credentials * Server side patch in boringSSL; NSS client side soon to be in FF nightly; FB work in progress * Plan to drop LURK mention, remove PKCS#1 v1.5 (RSA PSS only) [Martin says needs more text for clarity] * Plan was to not go forward without proof that this doesn't weaken PKI security; a by-hand one is in progress * Refine "Delegated credentials" term to "Delegated authentication keys" * Plan is to start WGLC, but make sure it isn't finished until the analysis is done and reviewed by the WG * Deprecate MD5 and SHA1 in TLS 1.2 * Make signature_algorithms mandatory in handshake; forbig MD5 and SHA1 algs in that extension * Andrei says MSFT can't enforce now but willing to do so in the future * Consensus in room is to adopt as a WG item; to be confirmed on the list * TLS Flags Extension * TLS 1.2 has 46 extensions; TLS 1.3 has 28; more coming * Many extensions have no data, just 1 bit of data (their presence) -- call them "flag extensions" * Various methods (fixed-size bitmask, varying-size bitmask, array of bytes, etc) * Can't re-do existing extensions (at least in clientHello), but server response and other messages could do so * Consensus in room is to adopt as a WG item; to be confirmed on the list * Suppress Intermediates * A new flag in clientHello says "don't send intermediates" * Not clear what to do if intermediate ends up not being available; options are then ugly * Server would ignore extension if it "knows" its chain is "unusual" ("weird" etc) * There is interest, but not ready to ask for adoption yet * TLS 1.3 Impact on Network Based Security Solutions * Network solutions sometimes insert a middlebox proxy between the client and the server, observers TLS metadata to do policy and access control. TLS 1.3 handshake changes affect these solutions. * Incorporated feedback, has been stable since IETF 104. New commentary started today. * Original plan was to ask for publication as informational even though it's not in charter. * More people read this draft than any other draft; interesting and surprising factoid. * Adjourn without action. *
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