Hi Julien,

Thanks for taking the time to check this!

On 07/03/2019 20:42, Julien ÉLIE wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>> This version attempts to make the few changes discussed
>> at the meeting on Monday. I wrote a script that gave me
>> a list of 76(!) RFCs this might need to update, and may
>> of course have mucked that up, so if anyone has a chance
>> to check if (some of) those make sense, that'd be great.
> 
> I believe updating RFC 4642 (TLS with NNTP) is useless because this RFC
> has already been updated by RFC 8143.
> 
> In RFC 8143:
> 
> A.6.  Related to Other Obsolete Wording
> 
>    The first two sentences of the seventh paragraph in Section 2.2.2 of
>    [RFC4642] are removed.  There is no special requirement for NNTP with
>    regard to TLS Client Hello messages.  Section 7.4.1.2 and Appendix E
>    of [RFC5246] apply.
> 
> That is to say, the following sentences in RFC 4642 are no longer relevant:
> 
>    Servers MUST be able to understand backwards-compatible TLS Client
>    Hello messages (provided that client_version is TLS 1.0 or later),
>    and clients MAY use backwards-compatible Client Hello messages.
>    Neither clients nor servers are required to actually support Client
>    Hello messages for anything other than TLS 1.0.
> 
> 
> 
> That's why I suggest draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate does not
> update RFC 4642.  It is no longer useful.
> Are you OK with this analysis?

Sorta:-) I think these are overlapping but not quite
identical updates. E.g. IIUC 8143 doesn't say to not
use TLSv1.1. I added the sentence below to the editor's
copy [1], but happy to do something else if I'm wrong,
which is entirely possible;-)

  "In the case of [RFC4642], that has already been
   updated by [RFC8143] which makes an overlapping,
   but not quite the same, update as this document."

Cheers,
S.

[1]
https://github.com/tlswg/oldversions-deprecate/blob/master/draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate.txt

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