> On Nov 12, 2018, at 4:45 AM, Tony Putman <tony.put...@dyson.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you please explain to me the problem with (EC)DH ciphers? If it's the
> lack of forward secrecy, then I understand. If there are other problems, 
> then I would be keen to understand them.

As much as it was lack of forward-secrecy, it was unnecessary bloat.
Few if any users actually needed these, and they did not get used.

The question is not so much what problem they introduced, but rather
what problem they were supposed to solve, and whether that problem
warranted the added complexity in the protocol.  I think we've had
the answer for some time now...

-- 
        Viktor.

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