On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-d...@dukhovni.org>
wrote:
>
>         c. Testing is not a good fit at this layer, all that's
>            pinned is the ability to deliver the extension, after a
>            previous connection delivered DANE TLSA records and a
>            non-zero extension support lifetime.  There is no TLS-layer
>            mechanism for the client to inform servers that don't
>            offer the extension that this extension was expected
>            while continuing the connection.  The closest we get is
>            the TLS 1.3 missing_extension(109) alert, which does not
>            carry the id of the mission extension, and is a failure
>            alert.  Out-of-band notification would require HTTP
>            support in applications that can't generally be expected
>            to include an HTTP implementation.
>

To the extent to which this is true, it's an argument that one should be
pinning at a different layer.

-Ekr


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