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> On Mar 30, 2018, at 5:20 PM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> TLS 1.3 has been approved by the IESG and it's on its way to the RFC Editor, 
> so 
> I don't really see this changing any time soon for the base RFC.
> 
> I think there's some debate about whether this is a good idea, but in any 
> case,
> the right way to pursue it would be to publish a new draft, presumably with
> some extension that says "I speak extended alerts".
> 
I agree with Eric’s assessment, this could be in a new draft as an extension.

Kathleen 

> -Ekr
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Bill Frantz <fra...@pwpconsult.com> wrote:
>> On 3/30/18 at 7:35 PM, pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) wrote:
>> 
>>> As you mention, debugging TLS is unnecessarily painful if there's a problem,
>>> you typically just get a handshake-failed alert which is essentially no
>>> information at all.  Having a debug-mode capability to send back a long-form
>>> error message would be extremely useful, maybe an extension to say "send 
>>> back
>>> a long-form alert with more than just 'BOOLEAN succeeded = FALSE' in it"
> 
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