Yes, I've read all that through, and I've been in Prague, and I still feel that the problem statement lacks some clarification.
This is, by the way, the reason draft-fenter is published; who would need that if the reasons all this visibility thing is proposed would have been transparent for anyone? вт, 13 мар. 2018 г., 13:39 Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com>: > > > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 16:31, Artyom Gavrichenkov <xima...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Nalini, > > > > вт, 13 мар. 2018 г., 11:59 nalini elkins <nalini.elk...@e-dco.com>: > > The TLS working group has been concentrating on making the Internet > secure for the individual user. We feel that there is also an underlying > motivation to help the underdog and protect the political dissident. > > > > This isn't about dissidents, this is all about the proper design. > > > > This ID helps explain the situation and subsequent need. If you haven’t > had a chance to read it yet, please try to do it before the London meeting. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fenter-tls-decryption/ > > > > I've read this document and have already proposed spawning a separate > thread discussing that before we'll land in London. Probably even before > the agenda will be confirmed. Or even better, discussing draft-fenter there > instead of draft-rhrd. > > > > IMO draft-fenter is much more important, because it is a problem > statement, and it's better to settle on a problem statement before > discussing solution which is "tls visibility". And, for me, personally, the > problem statement in draft-fenter is not convincing. > > I meant to answer your question: draft-fenter is referred to in Russ’s > slides it’s not specifically on the agenda. The chairs have seen the > slides you haven’t yet (Russ gets a gold start for submitting slides early). > > This is not the first time the topic (both the motivations and solutions) > has been discussed. This time tracks back to IETF 97. You can find the > presentation somewhere on the TLS row: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/97/agenda.html > There was also some discussion in Prague, which can found somewhere near > the TLS row at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/proceedings > > There have also been hundreds of message related to this topic that you > can search for on the list to get a sense (use the search tool with > something like “datacenter" OR "Data Center" OR draft-green OR RHRD OR > draft-rhrd OR "Industry Concerns"): > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=tls > > I hope that folks who come to the session will take the time to review the > previous discussion. > > spt > >
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