You seem to be responding to some other thread. As both Adam Langley and I mentioned, none of the changes that anyone is investigating for reducing middlebox-induced breakage affect the cryptographic properties of TLS.
-Ekr On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote: > there are a lot of us lurkers out here a bit horrified watching this wg > go off the rails. > > it would help if vendors of devices which break privacy would stop > speaking for 'datacenters' and let datacenters speak for themselves. i > have not seen any doing so. my $dayjob has >10 medium sized datacenters > serving everything from banks to telcos to scaled cloud services. i can > not find folk in our datacenter groups who see a need to break e2e > encryption. > > if the interception proposals ensured that user is notified and able to > prevent session interception, then i would believe this. but if they do > not, then let's face it, this is all about selling surveillance gear to > snooping enterprises and repressive regiemes where people with guns take > you away at 3am because your session was decoded. > > can we please provide real end to end privacy or call this wg something > else? > > randy > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
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