This is exactly how I think about it.

spt

> On Oct 4, 2017, at 12:11, Andrei Popov <andrei.po...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> It seems that CCM_8 falls in the “limited applicability” bucket. However, 
> there’s nothing wrong with IoT specs requiring these ciphers in their TLS 
> profiles.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Andrei
>  
> From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Salowey
> Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 11:42 AM
> To: Salz, Rich <rs...@akamai.com>
> Cc: <tls@ietf.org> <tls@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Should CCM_8 CSs be Recommended?
>  
> The current editor's copy of the draft has the following text about the 
> recommended column:
>  
> The instructions in this document add a recommended column to many of the TLS 
> registries to indicate parameters that are generally recommended for 
> implementations to support. Adding a recommended parameter to a registry or 
> updating a parameter to recommended status requires standards action. Not all 
> parameters defined in standards track documents need to be marked as 
> recommended.
> 
> If an item is marked as not recommended it does not necessarily mean that it 
> is flawed, rather, it indicates that either the item has not been through the 
> IETF consensus process or the item has limited applicability to specific 
> cases.
> 
>  
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:58 AM, Salz, Rich <rs...@akamai.com> wrote:
> ➢  We’re recommending that these five suites be dropped from the recommended 
> list.  Please let us know what you think.
> 
> 
> Does “recommended” mean for general use, in the public Internet?  Or is it “I 
> know it when I see it” kind of thing?
> 
> Either way, I support un-recommending them
> 
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