On 17 Jul 2017, at 20:49, Roland Dobbins wrote:

Based on my experience troubleshooting, I disagree with your disagreement; while in many circumstances a great deal can be inferred from one end, it's sometimes vitally necessary to gain visibility from multiple points in the relevant topological scope.

Also, it's quite common for the party responsible for the troubleshooting to *not* have ownership/admin privileges of/on either of the relevant endpoints.

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Roland Dobbins <rdobb...@arbor.net>

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