On 08/07/17 15:27, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Like you, I am very unhappy with this draft, and would not support its > adoption as a WG draft. However I think that open discussion is in > general good, and that the best venue for discussion of this draft is > this mailing list. Even if some of this discussion devolves into generic > "are we pro or against wiretapping" questions.
FWIW I believe that we have had that discussion about breaking tls over and over on this and other lists. I see no value in doing it yet again, even if the proximate cause is a new variation of the "here's a way to break tls" class of drafts. (Someday we should find someone who'd document all the broken break-tls ideas that have been rightly rejected over the years.) > > I don't think this is a significant distraction that could derail > (D)TLS, moreover, you will recall that in Chicago several new drafts > were adopted to the working group. So the WG does feel that TLS is in > good enough shape that we can spend some bandwidth on other things. Maybe I'm more easily distracted, at least by this topic;-) Anyway, I'm fine that it's for the chairs to figure that out. S. > Thanks, > > Yaron > > > On 08/07/17 12:17, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> Sean/Joe, >> >> This is a request that you, as chairs, shut down the distracting >> wiretapping discussion, at least until DTLS1.3 is done. >> >> I have planned to spend time reading draft 21 and DTLS, but that >> won't happen if we keep having to fight off the latest attempts >> to break TLS. I'd not be surprised if I weren't the only one >> finding that distraction an irritating waste of time. Finishing >> TLS1.3 and getting DTLS1.3 on the way surely needs to not be >> constantly de-railed by these attempts to break TLS. >> >> Therefore I'd ask that you declare this discussion closed for at >> least that long (i.e until DTLS1.3 is done). >> >> I'd also ask that you not allocate agenda time for wiretapping >> in Prague. >> >> Thanks, >> S. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> TLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > >
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