So no options in TLS 1.3 that make it possible to see the server cert in the 
clear ?

On Sun, Jun 04, 2017 at 03:25:46PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On 06/02/2017 08:28 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > Another candidate use case coming to mind eg: auditing tht is required in 
> > many eg: financial
> > environments. In the past i have seen even the requirement for the whole 
> > data streams to be unencrypted
> > for auditing. Maybe that market segment would also be able to get more 
> > privacy but maintain a
> > relevant level of auditing if the auditing relevant class of information 
> > was visible via
> > the cert.
> 
> That use case has been extensively discussed (look for the thread
> "Industry Concerns about TLS 1.3", also a fair bit of hallway
> discussions), and was not seen to provide a compelling argument for any
> change in TLS 1.3.  There are purely server-side options that should be
> able to provide the necessary functionality (crypto details omitted for
> now).
> 
> -Ben

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