On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 11:14:01PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On 05/04/2017 07:18 PM, Watson Ladd wrote:
> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Nico Williams <n...@cryptonector.com> wrote:
> >> In particular there has to be a way, either in-TLS, or at the
> >> application layer, to force an extra round-trip to confirm that the
> >> 0-rtt data was not an unintended replay.
> > One can always reject... unless I am misunderstanding the suggestion.
> 
> I'm pretty sure Nico still wants data-dependent reject, which is not
> workable in the general case.  (See the discussion of reverse proxies.)

What I want?  I'm saying that 0-rtt requires much care.  Specifically it
requires any of:

 - replay caching
 - not allowing 0-rtt for non-idempotent data (there are several ways to
   "not allow" 0-rtt in this case)

Take your pick.

Nico
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