> On May 4, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Salz, Rich <rs...@akamai.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't see how CA1 issuing a sub-ca for "... CN=fred" can globally prevent 
> CA2 from issuing a sub-ca with the exact same DN. Can you explain what I am 
> missing?

You forgot that all the CA certificates are of course published in the global 
X.500
directory.  And it is of course not possible for two CAs to have the same 
directory
DN.  [ DNs in the global directory are of necessity distinct. ]

:-)

Apologies for sending this as SMTP email over IP, with any luck it'll still make
it to your X.400 mailbox via a suitable IP<->X.25 connected gateway.

-- 
        Viktor.

P.S.  I've found one brave SMTP server out there whose TLS certificate took a
bold minimalist departure from PKIX.  Note the null subject, issuer and lack
of subjectAltNames.  This works just fine with DANE for SMTP, but could give
some peers a bit of indigestion.  The server administrator demonstrates a clear
understanding of what's essential in a DANE 3 1 1 certificate for SMTP (with
perhaps a "let anyone who can't deal with it fix their system" attitude):

Certificate:
    Data:
        Version: 3 (0x2)
        Serial Number: c3:26:2b:13:ca:b1:36:72
        Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
        Issuer: 
        Validity
            Not Before: Jul 27 14:59:59 2014 GMT
            Not After : Nov 27 14:59:59 3013 GMT
        Subject: 
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
            RSA Public Key: (4096 bit)
                Modulus (4096 bit): ...
                Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
        X509v3 extensions:
            X509v3 Subject Key Identifier: 
                98:C6:9B:D5:20:5C:1D:A8:31:39:BD:78:11:37:FF:BD:AD:5B:BD:59
            X509v3 Authority Key Identifier: 
                
keyid:98:C6:9B:D5:20:5C:1D:A8:31:39:BD:78:11:37:FF:BD:AD:5B:BD:59

            X509v3 Basic Constraints: 
                CA:TRUE
    Signature Algorithm: sha256WithRSAEncryption
        ...
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Bkov6rwPAF/VMHnoESFkA7mR5dpHa31D5l4g6B0dHj24V2IBmBNbzKifa9I04G+G
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H0y62RuD2sxdv4k3BKeFYt5NLE7QE8TNgVFKsAdTlW9Cni4yEnscwcM=
-----END CERTIFICATE-----


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