On 17 March 2017 at 10:58, Matt Caswell <fr...@baggins.org> wrote:
> In DTLS1.3 the cookie is now (potentially) much larger and appears much later 
> in
> the ClientHello, making it much more likely that it will not fall
> fully within the
> first fragment. This could mean a fully stateless solution is impossible.


I think that it is feasible to simply require that ClientHello be
contained in a single datagram.  QUIC does this and when we did the
sums it wasn't completely unreasonable, even assuming several key
shares and a big-ish cookie.  And then we made it possible to make the
cookie even smaller in -19.

That assumes that you are willing to assume a 1k MTU, which I know
IPv4 doesn't guarantee.  I'd be OK with adding a caveat on that point
in the form of "Consequently, DTLS might not work with a small MTU".

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