Hi Dave,

We are wondering because of this piece of text from the RFC EDITOR just above 
paragraph 4.1.4 on Hello Retry Request:

RFC EDITOR: PLEASE REMOVE THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH Implementations of draft 
versions (see Section 4.2.1.1) of this specification SHOULD NOT implement this 
mechanism on either client and server. A pre-RFC client connecting to RFC 
servers, or vice versa, will appear to downgrade to TLS 1.2. With the mechanism 
enabled, this will cause an interoperability failure.

Best,
Roel

> On 8 Nov 2016, at 22:26, Dave Garrett <davemgarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, November 08, 2016 09:55:36 am Roel Peeters wrote:
>> we are also wondering whether or not the Hello Retry Request will be
>> included or omitted in the standard. Leaving it out will make TLS 1.3
>> vulnerable again to downgrade attacks ...
> 
> Why are you wondering about this? HRR is in the specification and there has 
> been no discussion to remove it.
> 
> 
> Dave

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