If smaller devices don't use algorithms that can be used to talk to
random servers on the Internet, then they are choosing to not try to
get interop. That seems like a shame to me, unless there's a really
good reason and IMO, mostly there isn't, at the ciphersuite level. I
would hope we all won't make the GCM/CCM mistake again for example
(that "we" being roughly some combination of IETF/IEEE folks).

So I think the proposed change here, if it leads to fewer but more
ubiquitously deployed ciphersuites, will help smaller devices. And I
do think the IETF recommended column might lead us some way in that
direction.

Cheers,
S.

On 31/03/16 18:40, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> I can see some value in having this IANA registry list for ciphersuites
> in the way being proposed (even if it may be interpreted differently by
> different audiences). There have been, of course, too many algorithms
> used only in specific countries and those substantially increased the
> ciphersuite list.
> 
> I am just a little bit worried that everything developed for the IoT
> enviroment is quite likely labled as not recommended by the IETF in this
> registry because of the Web focus in this group.
> 
> The JPAKE is the item that we are currently interested in because we
> have contributed to the standardization work related to Thread and the
> stack we had implemented. Of course, the remark that JPAKE might not be
> a good fit for TLS 1.3 may be correct.
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> On 03/31/2016 07:25 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>> Interesting idea. You see this IANA registry more as the mandatory to
>>> implement algorithm list (for Web apps).
>>
>> I don't.  But lots of outsiders do, and I know they exert pressure on 
>> various projects and TLS/AD "leadership".  I've only had a little bit of it 
>> via openssl compared to those folks.
>>
>> --  
>> Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies
>> IM: richs...@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz
>>
>>
> 
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