On 29 Mar 2016, at 5:42 PM, Hubert Kario <hka...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 29 March 2016 15:09:16 Yoav Nir wrote:
>>> On 29 Mar 2016, at 2:15 PM, Hubert Kario <hka...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Friday 25 March 2016 22:07:02 Yoav Nir wrote:
>>>>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 8:16 PM, Yuhong Bao <yuhongbao_...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if it would be possible to publish
>>>>> draft-ietf-tls-56-bit-ciphersuites as Historic (in the sense of
>>>>> RFC
>>>>> 6101). It would start with
>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-56-bit-ciphersuites-01
>>>>> ,
>>>>> but the ciphersuites 0x60 and 0x61 would be added also as they
>>>>> were
>>>>> implemented in OpenSSL.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yuhong Bao
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> It would be possible but I’m wondering some things:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Are the original authors interested, or are there alternative
>>>> authors willing to take this on?
>>>> 
>>>> 2. What is the point?  All of the ciphersuites in there have been
>>>> deprecated by some diediedie document or another, and no sane
>>>> document author (here or elsewhere) would include any of these
>>>> 56-bit
>>>> ciphers in any profile for TLS that is intended to provide
>>>> security.
>>>> So what is the benefit?
>>> 
>>> 1. Showing why the code points are reserved.
>>> 2. Having official list of code points which must not be enabled (so
>>> 
>>>  that scanners can be complete)
>> 
>> Right. But this draft does not include RC4, RC2, and a number of other
>> bad IDEAs (pun intended), so it’s not a comprehensive list of things
>> you shouldn’t be doing.
> 
> it's not a die-die-die document. It's a document that will add the IDs
> to https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xhtml
> 
> 0x00,0x62 has no intrinsic meaning. TLS_RSA_EXPORT1024_WITH_DES_CBC_SHA
> has.
> 
> What to do with them is second step.

Oh, sorry. I hadn’t realized those were not in the registry.

Yoav

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