On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Robert Cragie <robert.cra...@gridmerge.com>
wrote:

> In Thread, it is used for local device authentication and authorisation.
> These use cases clearly benefit from a PAKE, i.e. getting deriving a shared
> cryptographic from a weaker shared password.
>

The better way to solve this problem is a device-specific "keychain", which
possibly loops in some sort of secure enclave for decrypting secrets, and
can authorize secret decryption based on the requesting app, derive a
strong master secret from a weak password/pin (possibly using a PUF for
anti-tamper). This is becoming a standard feature of the OSes on most
devices humans actually physically interact with, e.g. most smartphones,
tablets, and any OS you'd find on a laptop.

If you have this sort of keychain system, you can provision secrets
on-the-fly, e.g. origin-bound certificates. Now you don't need PAKE.
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