Thank you all for your help.
Nalini Elkins
Inside Products, Inc.
www.insidethestack.com
(831) 659-8360


----- Original Message -----
From: Roland Zink <rol...@zinks.de>
To: tls@ietf.org
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TLS] TCP Keep Alive Question: draft-ietf-tls-tls13-11

TCP keep alives are handled by the TCP stack and not given to TLS or as 
Watson said invisible to TLS.

Roland


Am 04.01.2016 um 16:59 schrieb nalini.elk...@insidethestack.com:
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM,  <nalini.elk...@insidethestack.com> wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Please excuse if this topic has been previously discussed.  I have a 
>>> question about TCP Keep Alives.
>>>
>>> Section 5 of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-11 reads:
>>>
>>> "Three protocols that use the TLS Record Protocol are described in this 
>>> document: the TLS Handshake Protocol, the Alert Protocol, and the 
>>> application data protocol."
>>>
>>> Then continues with:
>>>
>>> "Implementations MUST NOT send record types not defined in this document 
>>> unless negotiated by some extension.  If a TLS implementation receives an 
>>> unexpected record type, it MUST send an
>>> "unexpected_message" alert."
>>>
>>> In the wild today, I see many TLS connections which use TCP Keep Alive (NOT 
>>> TLS Heartbeat).   I take it that this will not work going forth?
>> TCP Keep Alive is invisible to the TLS connection.
> I see. Then, is it that PACKETS without the TLS record protocol may be sent 
> on the TLS connection, but IF the TLS Record protocol IS used, then the 
> record types must be one of those described?
>
> Or is it that TCP Keep Alive is taken out by the TCP stack and not passed to 
> TLS?
>
>
>
>>   Thanks,
>>
>> Nalini Elkins
>> Inside Products, Inc.
>> www.insidethestack.com
>> (831) 659-8360
>>
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