On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusva...@welho.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 08:49:35AM -0400, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > Thinking about this a little more:
> >
> > If we ever change the nonce construction to have an explicit nonce or
> > otherwise
> > not depend on the RSN (e.g., something like SIV) we're going to be sad if
> > we don't have the RSN in the AD. Obviously, we'd also need to change the
> > text about the nonce construction, so it's not like you could drop in a
> > construction
> > like this, but it would be slightly easier to do if we already MACed the
> > RSN.
> >
> > I'm not sure which side of the fence I'm on here. What do others think?
>
> AFAIK, the only case where this would be useful with RFC5116-compliant
> ciphers are the ciphers with N_MAX=0, i.e. no nonce. And such ciphers
> can't currently be used.


Yes, that's correct. But we could relax that restriction and make those work
if we wanted...

-Ekr


>
>
> -Ilari
>
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