On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Nico Williams <n...@cryptonector.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 09:18:34AM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Nico Williams <n...@cryptonector.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I'm not sure how I feel about this.  The idea that we always do a DH
> key
> > > exchange and always have a server signature means we can greatly reduce
> > > the number of ciphersuites, so that's quite helpful.  We'd have to
> apply
> > > this to PSK too to make it really worthwhile.
> >
> > Certainly it would be nice to get rid of PSK too but just getting rid of
> > DH_anon makes a non-trivial difference.
>
> How would we get rid of PSK [without DH]?  What would the impact be on
> IoT devices?  Could we have a fake-DH-and-signature PSK scheme to make
> it easy on IoTs?


I guess I wasn't clear: I'm not in favor of getting rid of PSK. I'm saying
that
even if we still have PSK, removing DH_anon as an explicit mode makes
things simpler.

-Ekr
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