Am Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:09:57 +0000 schrieb FS <dh...@freenet.de>: > I can confirm the it works very well! Congrats! I like that TLF sends > the TU message after correcting the call with Backspace. And yes > please deactivate it for S&P.
Very well. I am glad we found a good working solution. 73, de Tom > > Now I have to find a way to RUN from Germany with Low Power to use > the feature extensively. That's the hardest thing :-). > And CQWW is > close... > > 73 Fred > > On 11/12/2013 10:27 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: > > Fred, > > > > a configurable timeout is an option. Adding that option is quite > > some work - shall it be configured from the logcfg.dat or from > > command line? When should a change be allowed, .... > > > > For the moment I am interested if we got the main functionality > > right. You can change the timeout in the code for testing, but sure > > that can not be the final solution. > > > > One problem with slow typers: You will get pauses in your cw signal > > if you use some speed. Maybe best would be to adapt that timeout to > > the cw speed. > > > > 73, Tom DL1JBE > > > > Am Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:48:40 +0000 > > schrieb FS <dh...@freenet.de>: > > > >> Tom, > >> > >> what about to make this 0.7s configureable? This would give > >> headroom for the slow typers, as well as make it useable with > >> different speeds. > >> > >> 73 Fred > >> > >> On 11/12/2013 09:08 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: > >>> Sorry, forgot to send a copy to the list. Here it comes. > >>> > >>> Tom DL1JBE > >>> > >>> > >>> Datum: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:07:03 +0100 > >>> Von: Thomas Beierlein <t...@forth-ev.de> > >>> An: mar...@centrum.cz > >>> Betreff: Re: Autosend feature - first tests > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Martin, > >>> > >>> Am Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:33:09 +0100 > >>> schrieb Martin Kratoska <mar...@centrum.cz>: > >>>> there is something strange. tlf does not see now hamlib, so no > >>>> radio control :-( > >>>> > >>> Maybe you forgot the '--enable-hamlib' in the ./configure stage? > >>> > >>>> The Autosend option works but not exactly as meant. The auto > >>>> sending begins with the character count as set with :char > >>>> command, this is OK. Setting :char to 4 actually moves the > >>>> cursor to the exchange field while tlf is sending 2nd character. > >>> > >>> That depends a little on your typing speed. But you are right. It > >>> moves to the exchange field as soon as you stop typing. > >>> > >>> The reason for this behavior is that we can not do the same > >>> handling as in TRLog. As TRLog sends the CW characters itself > >>> (integrated keyer) it knows exactly how far it is with sending the > >>> already typed in characters and when it catches your typing. > >>> > >>> For us using cwdaemon, the usbdaemon or Andys winkeyer daemon > >>> means we can send out the characters to the keying daemon but get > >>> no feedback how far it is with sending and therefore we have no > >>> information when the daemon catches your typing. > >>> > >>> So I suggested to use a timeout instead. As soon as you stop > >>> typing (atm after 0.7s) it assumes the call sign is complete and > >>> then it switches to the exchange field. It fear it is the best we > >>> can do without doing the whole keying stuff in tlf itself. > >>> > >>> Any ideas how to come around that are welcome. > >>> > >>>> Therefore the op has not > >>>> time till 4th character is finished, here I have time actually > >>>> only till 1st character is completed. > >>> > >>> Not quite. As described above you have 0.7 seconds for each > >>> character you want to type. > >>> > >>> 73, de Tom DL1JBE > >>>> > >>>> 73 Martin, OK1RR > >>>> > >>>> Dne 11.11.2013 13:35, Thomas Beierlein napsal(a): > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> I just finished the first quick version of the new autosend > >>>>> feature. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please download the zip archive from > >>>>> https://github.com/Tlf/tlf/archive/autosend.zip unpack it and > >>>>> then change to the directory. > >>>>> > >>>>> 'autoreconf --install' > >>>>> './configure ....' > >>>>> 'make' > >>>>> 'make install' > >>>>> > >>>>> should build it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some comments: > >>>>> - Set autostart with ':char' as before (0 - off, 2..5 sets, ESC > >>>>> keeps old value) > >>>>> - timeout is 0.7s (enough if you get a hiccup while typing, > >>>>> short enough to work even at 30 wpm and very short calls > >>>>> - call will accept also '/' and '?' characters > >>>>> - you can stop with ESC as before > >>>>> > >>>>> Please test and report back. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think autosend is only useful in RUN mode. I will block it for > >>>>> S&P if you aggree. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, de Tom DL1JBE. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Am Sun, 10 Nov 2013 > >>>>> 16:38:47 +0100 schrieb Fred Siegmund <dh...@freenet.de>: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Indeed. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 73 Fred > >>>>>> Am 07.11.2013 21:25, schrieb Martin Kratoska: > >>>>>>> Excellent! You hit the nail, Tom! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 73, > >>>>>>> Martin, OK1RR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dne 7.11.2013 21:13, Thomas Beierlein napsal(a): > >>>>>>>> Ok. Lets summarize: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - autostart after 2..5 characters (configurable) > >>>>>>>> - shorter calls have to be finished with the normal ENTER > >>>>>>>> - as soon as autosend starts there will be no chance to edit > >>>>>>>> bad characters, all you type in will be send > >>>>>>>> - start sending exchange after a keyboard timeout (100..200 > >>>>>>>> ms) > >>>>>>>> - only alfanumerical keys (and ENTER) accepted after > >>>>>>>> autosend starts > >>>>>>>> - SPACE and DOWN will no longer start autosend > >>>>>>>> - SPACE will toggle cursor between call and exchange input > >>>>>>>> field > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 73, de Tom DL1JBE > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Tlf-devel mailing list > >>>>>>> Tlf-devel@nongnu.org > >>>>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Tlf-devel mailing list > >>>>>> Tlf-devel@nongnu.org > >>>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tlf-devel mailing list > >> Tlf-devel@nongnu.org > >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tlf-devel mailing list > Tlf-devel@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel -- "Do what is needful!" 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