BurningTreeC Thanks for your response. It shows the widgets are much simpler than I thought. And while some example layouts will be helpful they now seem less important. Regards Tony
On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 5:38:30 PM UTC+10, BurningTreeC wrote: > > BurningTreeC >> >> If your open to ideas I just want to say I have not yet gone down the >> "touch interface" rabbit hole yet but I am impressed by the progress. Since >> it looks like we can make Mobile first solutions can I ask you try and >> bundle complete layouts? >> > > > >> My focus is currently on information tools and they often need the >> desktop but I know many will depend on a good mobile layout. I will be >> publishing a lot to the community over the coming months as I have climbed >> over the hump of my learning curve. It would be great if such layouts were >> packaged so I could deliver them in mobile first. >> > > Hi Tony, this shouldn't be reduced to touch-only or mobile-first. Except > the pinch widget all widget work with the mouse, too - the same way as they > work with a touch screen and fingers. > > Bundling complete layouts is a big task. I'm looking for a suitable layout > for desktop use, that can be used for mobile, too - using the dynaview > plugin that enables to see if the screen is big or small. > > I'm thinking about ONE layout first - I've played around with various > layouts and that's the point where I'm open for ideas: finding a suitable > layout. > A layout where the strengths of the hammer widgets can be used to alter > the editing, viewing and presenting experience. > > I hope that users can see that these layouts are just wikitext and css - > that means if they can create a macro that filters tiddlers and they can > style a list, they can also create layouts. > I cannot create every possible layout a user could want by myself. I'm > missing the time for that. > > >> >> I do not underestimate the effort here however I believe we need one last >> push here to ensure tiddlywiki is relevant in todays mobile world. >> >> One of my projects is to provide a tool to generate View and Edit >> Templates parallel to the default ones so you can mess with them and retain >> transportable layouts, also alter the toolbar buttons for this alternate >> view. I would be happy to share this work if anyone is going to use it. >> > > What I believe is that we could replace toolbar buttons with gestures in > certain layouts/use-cases > > The swipe widget for example creates a div than can have 4 different > actions (swipe up/left/right/down on the div) - that's one "button" instead > of 4 and you can swipe with your mouse or your finger: > > <$swipe class="tc-swipe-me" leftactions="""<$action-dosomething/>""" > upactions="""<$action-dosomething/>""" rightactions=""" > <$action-dosomething/>""" downactions="""<$action-dosomething/>"""/> > > The widget creates a div (can also be a different tag if you add > tag="span") with class "tc-swipe-me" and you position it by css and give it > a height and width. Or you build the swipe widget around content like: > > <$swipe leftactions="""<$action-dosomething/>""" upactions=""" > <$action-dosomething/>""" rightactions="""<$action-dosomething/>""" > downactions="""<$action-dosomething/>"""> > This content is swipeable and dispatches different actions if swiping > up/left/right/down > </$swipe> > > The tap, swipe and press widgets are pretty easy, they all work the same > and they only recognize the gesture on the created element and dispatch the > given action(s) > The pan widget is the most versatile for layouts because it produces > pointer coordinates in a state tiddler and they can be used very > creativelly like: > > x/y - pads > moving elements like tiddler content (see this tiddler: > http://hammerwidgets.tiddlyspot.com/#Reorder%20Tiddler%20Content) > creating drag-and-drop layouts > drag-resizing tiddlers, sidebars > showing/hiding panels > ... > > The pinch widget is not very complex but stores the scale and rotation > values in a state tiddler. They can be used to create: > > rotatable stuff like knobs > zoomable stuff > > > I've already built all of the things mentioned trying to figure out what > works best in the environment they're interacting with > So now I'd like to put those findings into a layout - and for that I'm > open for ideas > >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> > All the best, Simon > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/272def24-3179-400d-a2a5-dc1a2a9dc3bc%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
