Well that worked like a charm, I guess I pretty much hit my limitations at
copy pasting stuff around.
Additionally I did notice that this new version of CKEditor seems to
alleviate the spacing issues at launch with Tiddlywiki, more often then not
it opens and sizes correctly, which is a plus :D
Once again many thank you for your time and patience, and for the wonderful
support!
On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 17:35:24 UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>
>
> I only tried the div plugin with a basic setup, maybe it does not play
> well with other plugins.
>
> The styles need to be a json:
>
> [{"name":"Italic
> Title","element":"h2","styles":{"font-style":"italic"}},{"name":"Subtitle","element":"h3","styles":{"color":"#aaa","font-style":"italic"}},{"name":"Special
>
> Container","element":"div","styles":{"padding":"5px
> 10px","background":"#eee","border":"1px solid
> #ccc"}},{"name":"Strong","element":"strong","overrides":"b"},{"name":"Emphasis","element":"em","overrides":"i"},{"name":"Underline","element":"u"},{"name":"Strikethrough","element":"strike"},{"name":"Subscript","element":"sub"},{"name":"Superscript","element":"sup"},{"name":"Marker","element":"span","attributes":{"class":"marker"}},{"name":"Big","element":"big"},{"name":"Small","element":"small"},{"name":"Typewriter","element":"tt"},{"name":"Computer
>
> Code","element":"code"},{"name":"Keyboard
> Phrase","element":"kbd"},{"name":"Sample
> Text","element":"samp"},{"name":"Variable","element":"var"},{"name":"Deleted
> Text","element":"del"},{"name":"Inserted
> Text","element":"ins"},{"name":"Cited
> Work","element":"cite"},{"name":"Inline
> Quotation","element":"q"},{"name":"Language:
> RTL","element":"span","attributes":{"dir":"rtl"}},{"name":"Language:
> LTR","element":"span","attributes":{"dir":"ltr"}},{"name":"Styled image
> (left)","element":"img","attributes":{"class":"left"}},{"name":"Styled
> image
> (right)","element":"img","attributes":{"class":"right"}},{"name":"Compact
> table","element":"table","attributes":{"cellpadding":"5","cellspacing":"0","border":"1","bordercolor":"#ccc"},"styles":{"border-collapse":"collapse"}},{"name":"Borderless
>
> Table","element":"table","styles":{"border-style":"hidden","background-color":"#E6E6FA"}},{"name":"Square
>
> Bulleted List","element":"ul","styles":{"list-style-type":"square"}}]
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 3:46:04 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos
> wrote:
>>
>> Gave it a try and it did work, however I didn't see much difference in
>> the editing area, it was still styled differently from the rest of
>> tiddlywiki, althought I am quite ok with that.
>> It did break some other functionality, like the floating bar always
>> appearing out of place outside the editing text area, and the menus stopped
>> staying open, they close immediately uppon clicking.
>>
>> I tried copy pasting from the provided default CKEditor styles.js into
>> the styles tiddler and I can't seem to get it to work. the styles menu
>> either just gets greyed out and won't open or gives a javascript error.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 13:28:11 UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> It looks like the 'div area editor' is working. When you build your
>>> version of ckeditor online, you can select the 'div area editor' plugin and
>>> remove the 'iframe area editor' plugin. The will allow the editor to use
>>> the correct styles in tiddlywiki whilst editing.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 11:21:05 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Styles will be a welcome addition certainly. For now I managed to get
>>>> it working with the plugins I needed, nothing too fancy.
>>>> Only real complaint I have at the moment is that small glitch while
>>>> loading CKEditor which temporarily messes up the layout until you start
>>>> typing and it all falls back into place, but I can live with that.
>>>>
>>>> What I don't really understand well how to use is the styles.json
>>>> tiddler at $:/plugins/bj/visualeditor/styles.json and what notation
>>>> must be used there
>>>> I know you add styles there, but I can't tell how to set them apart for
>>>> the "Paragraph Format" and "Formatting Styles" menus, or how to add a few
>>>> simple "H1" and "H2" elements without additional "styles" for example, or
>>>> "Block quotes" or "<Code>".
>>>> Playing around with it is a bit cumbersome, because any wrong
>>>> combination or mistake will generate a javascript error and prevent
>>>> tiddlywiki from booting properly.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 05:52:18 UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not finished the work for the ckeditor, I plan on adding
>>>>> support for the divarea plugin to enable styles (I have this working on
>>>>> twclassic), but I have a lot of projects and am only one. Let me know
>>>>> what
>>>>> was causing your problems - I might fix it !
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> BJ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:49:29 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Haha that's very kind of you thanks for the wonderful support. The
>>>>>> problem once again seems to be between the seat and the keyboard luckily
>>>>>> for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some wacky combination of CKEditor plugins (built from CK builder
>>>>>> website) seems to be the culprit of the malfunction, it works fine in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> provided samples page but fails to load inside tiddlywiki
>>>>>> It is simply solved by downloading a standard CKeditor build, I'll
>>>>>> try adding plugins one by one and see if I can find which ones are
>>>>>> causing
>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>> If you are interested I can still provide a broken CKEditor build,
>>>>>> but that's probably just a waste of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway thanks for your availability, much appreciated :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 13 July 2015 21:23:37 UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Duarte,
>>>>>>> well I like to please my customers,( and as far as I know that means
>>>>>>> just you!) and so have downloaded 4.5.1 and have tried it with 5.1.9 -
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it seems to work ok. If you can put you tiddlywiki online somewhere
>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>> can see it I will try and workout why it doesn't work for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 5:11:41 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey BJ
>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you and dig up this old post, there a few major
>>>>>>>> releases in the meantime, and I was excited to try the new CKEditor
>>>>>>>> 4.5.1
>>>>>>>> with the fresh new TiddlyWiki 5.1.9
>>>>>>>> Turns out there must have been some deeper changes on both sides
>>>>>>>> that seem to be preventing it from working correctly. I mean CKEditor
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> load inside tiddlywiki but it appears all greyed out, I can't type or
>>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>>> any of the buttons.
>>>>>>>> Did I do something wrong along installation, or did the deeper
>>>>>>>> changes really break the fragile compatibility?
>>>>>>>> Do you think you could be bothered to update for the latest
>>>>>>>> versions, would it be worth your while?? Very few people seem to be
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> this, so I totally understand if you don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Duarte
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 12 February 2015 12:39:38 UTC, BJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tobias,
>>>>>>>>> if you look in the widget's source you will see that an
>>>>>>>>> 'x-perimental' type can be enabled - I cannot decide if it is a good
>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>> or not - I don't plan to support it at the moment
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12 February 2015 at 01:16, Tobias Beer <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that — while you can't put any macros — you can
>>>>>>>>>> actually put widgets alongside html (in source mode). What you don't
>>>>>>>>>> see is
>>>>>>>>>> some placeholder in CKEditor that hints at you that it's there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now I am wondering whether CKEditor does allow for something like
>>>>>>>>>> "widgets"... so we could at least see a placeholder with the widget
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> and upon clicking we'd be editing that core widget.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps a CKEditor plugin could be written that allows to insert
>>>>>>>>>> and edit a number of TiddlyWiki widgets, even with placeholders for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> corresponding attributes?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, Tobias.
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