Hi Alex

I would very much love to see lots of new TW users. Everything that can 
help in that direction really.  I do wonder though. Your suggestion seem to 
be rather time consuming to create. I would think that new users either 
know someone using TW, have heard a lot about exciting and endless 
possibilities or searched the net for possible solutions to a problem that 
they have.

The first hurdle is to download empty, and do all the things you mention. 
Is it really that hard given the explanations given in words with icons?.
Most people are able to open a document file in the relevant software, edit 
and save it. Know that a newly created document have to be given a title in 
order to save it.
Is it the fact that TW is one single file using tiddlers, that explains it 
suddenly became difficult? Icons that should make it possible to guess at 
first...hint text to explain.

Also I think that if above steps are so difficult for the person trying out 
TW, will they really keep using it? 
If they do they will certainly have to learn by daring to try out new 
things, reading about stuff at tiddlywiki.com or follow some of the links 
given, or come here to the group and ask.

I think we can all do, whatever we can to help and make it easier for new 
users, *who ask us*!

I think a user finding TW because he/she *wants* to know will succeed to 
some degree, there will always be more to learn and to try out.

Why do I stress the words "who ask us" and "wants"?

Every user loving TiddlyWiki, loves it so much that we cannot help trying 
to get others to use it too. That is fine up to a point.
You can offer the horse water, but you can not force it to drink!

I love TiddlyWiki and  spend a lot of time using it for serious matters but 
absolutely also for the fun of it. I have told and shown my family and 
close friends. If they have shown just a little interest I have made 
special editions for them to use with everything in our own language. Tried 
to help them get a good start. Really never a success. As soon as I was not 
nearby they stopped using it.
There could be a lot of reasons for that. I have reason to believe, that 
they were really never seriously interested just polite.
I stopped trying. Each to his own.

Now I do not speak of it, just use it. Then they started to complain about 
my using TW in words that had a jealous tone to it. I tried once more, of 
course they would like to use and love TW also. But no it was not that, it 
was the time I used enjoying TW, instead of doing what each of them thought 
I should do.

Learning and using TW is an adventurous journey. I think you have to like 
that kind of journey to really get hooked.

I do remember how it was to be a new user. Starting with TWc I had great 
help from Måns, and from Dave Giffords guide 
http://www.giffmex.org/twfortherestofus.html. When I started using TW5, I 
really did not do much until I found http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm, 
that started me out, and soon after I found Ton Gerners lovely guides.

I have often read users in this group tell the same story.

It is powerful when users create wikis, do stuff and tell how they 
accomplished it.

Merry Christmas everyone,

Birthe

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