Hi Andrew

> Greetings. I have worked on $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/topleftbar on my site
t5a.tiddlyspot.com using examples from $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/controls,
$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/sidebar, and $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title. I
created it as a shadow tiddler and made some adjustments to my clock
styling and added tags to what seemed to be the right buttons.

Looks good, well done.

> I still have a couple of questions if you could point me in the right
direction. Why do you even need visibility shadow tiddlers?

The alternative to the visibility shadow tiddlers would be for the
checkboxes in control panel to add and remove the system tag
$:/tags/ViewTemplate (etc). The trouble is that each time we do that the
user would end up making a copy of the shadow tiddler corresponding to the
button. The trouble then is that the buttons would get upgraded with a core
update.

Using the visibility shadow tiddlers means that there is a single, simple,
shadow tiddler to override, that will survive upgrade attempts.

> also the save button is showing no right padding for some odd reason in
my top bar?

I'm not sure what's happening there, I'll investigate.

> I would also like my clock to show up first? Or would that be another
feature enhancement?

You can add a "list-after" or "list-before" field to the button tiddler
corresponding to your clock:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging

Scroll down to "Use list fields to adjust the ordering of tag lists"

Best wishes

Jeremy.





On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Evolena <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would also like my clock to show up first? Or would that be another
>> feature enhancement?
>>
>
> Just add to the clock button the field "list-before". It seems to work
> even without value, but I had to save two times the tiddler for the date to
> correctly display first. Also there is a little padding or margin issue.
>
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