Thanks @Alvaro, I’ll take a look at those. Already, the TW-primer shows up
in the themes tab based on my changes on my end, I tend not to push to
GitHub until the product is able to be used.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:00 AM Álvaro <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You can include the paltte in the theme.
> Here you have two examples:
> - Mono theme
> <http://j.d.mono.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fthemes%2Fjd%2FMono:%24%3A%2Fthemes%2Fjd%2FMono>
> - Notebook theme
> <https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/notebook.html#%24%3A%2Fthemes%2Fnico%2Fnotebook>
>
> There is another point that you can see, these themes start with *$:/themes/
> *instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will see
> them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme
>
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2, [email protected]
> escribió:
>
>> Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I
>> can't include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it
>> differently ???
>>
>> My palette file looks like this:
>>
>> description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
>> name: tw5-primer
>> title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
>> tags: $:/tags/Palette
>> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>>
>> And palette code here...
>>
>> Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have to
>> be defined inside the css file??
>>
>> Thanks for your (continued) help!
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more
>>> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
>>>> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N
>>>> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it
>>>> with <<colour keyName>> where keyName can be page-background or others.
>>>>
>>>> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If
>>>> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works
>>>> like stylesheet file.
>>>>
>>>> you can see more of what was discussed here
>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#colour%20Macro:%5B%5Bcolour%20Macro%5D%5D%20%5B%5Bcolour%20Macro%20(Examples)%5D%5D%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2FCSS%20ContentType%20%24%3A%2Fpalettes%2FVanilla>
>>>>
>>>> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many
>>>> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also
>>>> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes,
>>>> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki.
>>>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2,
>>>> [email protected] escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> <<code-border>> gives you the color number from the palette - that
>>>>> will be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette
>>>>> for their use of Tiddlywiki.
>>>>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to
>>>>>> include it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a
>>>>>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
>>>>>> <<code-border>>
>>>>>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>>>>>>> $:/ControlPanel
>>>>>>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select 
>>>>>>> clone
>>>>>>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
>>>>>>> choose
>>>>>>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start.
>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 [email protected]
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first
>>>>>>>> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need 
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values
>>>>>>>>> of some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>>>>>>>>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> body.tc-body {
>>>>>>>>>     font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>>>>>>>>>     line-height:
>>>>>>>>> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>>>>>>>>>     word-wrap: break-word;
>>>>>>>>>     <<custom-background-datauri>>
>>>>>>>>>     color: <<colour foreground>>;
>>>>>>>>>     *background-color: <<colour page-background>>;*
>>>>>>>>>     fill: <<colour foreground>>;
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>>>>>>>>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2,
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] escribió:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some
>>>>>>>>>> feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette
>>>>>>>>>> tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't allow
>>>>>>>>>> this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still
>>>>>>>>>> overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on 
>>>>>>>>>> .tc-body, I
>>>>>>>>>> add the following CSS to my theme
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> body.tc-body {
>>>>>>>>>>      background-color: #000;
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes
>>>>>>>>>> to change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, 
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work, because the palette call of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> body.tc-body {
>>>>>>>>>>      background-color: #fff;
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be
>>>>>>>>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>>>>>>>>
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