Yes @Dave: it was $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/Backlinks ... So i removed the 
tag $:/tags/ViewTemplate from it, and problem is solved -for now.  Is it 
going to reappear if/whenever i update the Subsume plugin?
NB: it also has the tag "hidemebacklinks" on it, which i have left, not 
knowing if that's a problem or not.  ?

/walt

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 4:46:52 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi Walt
>
> Solution, hopefully: 
> 1. Go to Advanced search > Filter tab. 
> 2. Paste [tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]]
> 3. Tell me what you see there (so I can figure out how that showed up once 
> you added subsume)
> 4. Open the one(s) that is giffmex, and untag it.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 10:39 AM ludwa6 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> @Dave: see bottom of attached screenshot for the two "References" 
>> widgets.  Yours is folded, but when opened reveals a filter widget, with 
>> list of referenced tids, as you know... While the References table from 
>> Shiraz is partially displayed a bottom. 
>> Does this help?  
>> Also: This also shows what a Streams hierarchy looks like -below the HR 
>> that separates it from the several Subsume widgets above.  That's the best 
>> i can do to answer your up-thread request for a view of my workflow... But, 
>> as described in text of that tiddler, there is no good way at present to 
>> bring a Streams hierarchy into a single tiddler -not without some code 
>> magic that i don't know how to do yet!
>>
>> [image: SeeTwReferencesConflictAtBottom.jpeg]
>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 3:49:21 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Walt, I meant which tiddlers do you personally have tagged as 
>>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate. From your link I see it is the Kookma one, as you 
>>> said. But I am not seeing the References dropdown you refer to, except the 
>>> one that opens the Kookma table. Can you show me what the problem looks 
>>> like, and I will see what is causing it?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 9:30:52 AM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK @Dave -but, as you can see here 
>>>> <https://tiddlystreams.github.io/#ViewTemplateConflict>, it's a pretty 
>>>> long list i got by searching all System tiddlers for string 
>>>> "viewtemplate"... Even longer when i add all Shadow tiddlers with that 
>>>> string!  
>>>> NB: That TiddlyStreams wiki linked above does not have the problem; 
>>>> this is a ported-over list from my "mother" instance in TiddlyDesktop. 
>>>> Can you identify some potential conflict(s) in that list?
>>>>
>>>> /walt
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:50:26 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Walt, This seems a bit different. I think the relevant tiddler is 
>>>>> $:/plugins/flibbles/relink/ui/TiddlerInfo/References . But it is not 
>>>>> a viewtemplate tiddler, and I deliberately avoided adding a view template 
>>>>> tiddler. It should only affect a tab in info. Can you tell me what you 
>>>>> have 
>>>>> as your viewtemplate tiddler(s)?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 8:14:16 AM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Further to my last @Dave, i do have one little gripe:  after 
>>>>>> installation of Subsume plugin, a "References" dropdown appeared 
>>>>>> -redundant 
>>>>>> in my case, since i use the Shiraz plugin for its "References" table- 
>>>>>> and i 
>>>>>> can't make it go away. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This gave me a sense of deja-vu, like maybe we had this problem 
>>>>>> before... And indeed, following my report of same issue w/r/t 
>>>>>> "hidemebacklinks" pill, you posted this fix 
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/LPOIaGiXiPY/m/thOxgp1iAgAJ>, 
>>>>>> which worked in that case... But it didn't work this time. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything you can suggest in this case, Dave?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /walt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 12:33:23 AM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a while it seemed the problems would never end. But with the 
>>>>>>> help of a lot of people, the Subsume plugin has finally landed. 
>>>>>>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/subsume.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subsumes are a combination of links and sliders in one macro, so 
>>>>>>> that you can either open a link to a subsumed tiddler or open a slider 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> view its contents without losing your place in the host tiddler. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subsumes can be nested, so this plugin is also a way to do outlining 
>>>>>>> in TiddlyWiki similar to Dynalist and Workflowy. Includes an editor 
>>>>>>> toolbar, relinking of subsumes, excising as subsumes, and, with an 
>>>>>>> addon, 
>>>>>>> autocompletion as subsumes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See the new video tutorial at the demo site. A big thanks to 
>>>>>>> snowgoon88 and flibbles for their plugins, and to everyone who helped 
>>>>>>> me 
>>>>>>> out with previous versions (hideme, det) and now subsume
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feedback welcome and appreciated!
>>>>>>>
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