Hi Walt, I am happy to announce that the streams to text is finally
updated: https://szen.io/stream/ . Thanks to Saq who has gently helped me
and provided hooks within the plugin, that make it fun tinkering with the
plugin, this version should be more future-proof than the last ones
.
As always: Backup before using it to recompress the ideas, you collected
with streams.

Enjoy,
Jan



Am Do., 24. Juni 2021 um 15:22 Uhr schrieb ludwa6 <[email protected]>:

> Picking up where this earlier thread
> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o> left off, i am
> following Saq's advice
> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/9lO63cZEAQAJ> to
> start another conversation on the more specific question of HOW best to use
> -and perhaps adapt- the Streams plugin, to make TW into a great tool for
> not only "intertwingly" NoteTaking (which it certainly is), but also great
> for agile NoteTaking, as defined in aforementioned thread.
>
> Having just installed the plugin (Streams 0.2.18) in my TiddlyDesktop
> instance, i am already fairly drunk on the power of having what feels like
> a full-fledged outliner *within* a tiddler, where i can bang out a stream
> of bullet points, promote & demote, indent & outdent, etc... All as fast as
> i can type the keystrokes, or drag&drop on mobile.
>
> But then: the result is a slew of tiddlers with long numeric IDs that, tho
> nicely presented in the edit window as a clean hierarchal outline, cannot
> be either flattened into a single tiddler, nor exported or even copy/pasted
> into the tiddler body via any built-in affordance.  I've been going the
> copy/paste way so far, but it's a hard road to travel, given any
> significant length and/or complexity to your outline.
>
> Now: plugin author Saq said essentially
> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/9lO63cZEAQAJ>
> that the only reason he hasn't built in any such affordance is that he
> doesn't know what users want: a simple concatenation of the stream? a
> hierarchial structure in some form?
>
> For me, the best (and simplest?) solution would be to convert the stream
> to Markdown: each node being just a line of text preceded by a number of
> asterisks (1->any) to reflect its level in the hierarchy.  This could be
> interpreted & displayed correctly in any tiddler that is formatted
> Markdown; TW has affordances for this -as does Github (.md is default
> format of ReadMe files there) and most web publishing & word processing
> apps you can find these days.  Indeed, Saq indicated
> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/BF2bQzugAAAJ>
> that a  .md<->.tid converter would be no big deal (for him, at least :-) to
> create; this would enable not only "flattening" of a Stream in such manner,
> but also importing a .md file as presentable tiddler content.  Now THAT
> would be cool, IMHO... But that's just me, so far.
>
> SO this is to ask all of you with any experience of Streams plugin: Can
> you relate to the need i am expressing?  Or have you found a good way
> "flatten" your streams, and integrate your Streams content properly into a
> TW instance?  If so, anything you might care to share in terms of workflow
> and/or code would be most appreciated.
>
> NB: I did learn in the course of that earlier thread about this 
> Streams-to-text
> solution <https://szen.io/stream/> (thanks @Si for the pointer), but Saq
> warned
> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/yXLAGwBIAQAJ>
> that the plugin (actually a microAddOn/Mod, according to author Jan) is not
> compatible with current version of Streams as it stands, though he believes
> that Jan is working on it.  So i'm holding off on installing that for now,
> but would love to hear any news or user reports about that.
>
> /walt
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