As mentioned above, I use Jans sidecontrols plugin. It consists of a 
ViewTemplate, EditTemplate and a stylesheet tiddler.[image: Skærmbillede på 
2021-03-02 04-43-52.png]
But the size and place is the same, no matter title, titlesize, or frame.

Birthe
tirsdag den 2. marts 2021 kl. 14.42.14 UTC+1 skrev Mat:

> David Gifford wrote:
>
>> @Mat: I think the answer is, I will need to create a separate tiddler 
>> with the viewtoolbar elements in it, wrap it in a special class, and make 
>> that class visible in the top right corner of the tiddler on hovering 
>> anywhere in a tiddler. That will involve layers of things I don't know how 
>> to do yet. But when I get time to investigate that later this week, I will 
>> try that.
>>
>
> I don't think you need to create any separate tiddler, at least if it is 
> sufficient to toggle a stylesheet. You can css target the title and/or the 
> toolbar separately even when they're in the same tiddler/viewtemplate. 
>
> <:-)
>

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