On Tue, 2025-11-18 at 12:24 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 10:17:53 -0500, Peter Jones wrote:
> 
> > What grub2 and kernel packages do you have installed?
> 
> All latest with updates-testing repo enabled for a long time.
> 
> But over the weekend I've gone a different route and have installed F43
> from scratch (with reformatted EFI ESP and also with btrfs boot+root this
> time). And with that installation, I could upgrade to the latest shim* in
> updates-testing repo without causing any breakage. Next I've added a F42
> multi-boot installation (ext4) for testing and will upgrade it eventually
> similar to how I've done it in the F3* days.
> 
> So, at present I'm not getting any breakage anymore. Would still be good,
> if the Fedora Updates System didn't point at F41 packages for "shim" but
> would show the test updates for the newer releases somewhere, too.

shim is special in this regard. It doesn't have a release tag - it's
just 'shim-16.1-2' or whatever - and we use the same build for multiple
releases. This is (AIUI) because of the requirement for it to be signed
by Microsoft; if we did different builds of shim for each release we'd
have to put *all* of them through the signing process, which is a bit
of a PITA.

This is also why it's weird in Bodhi. Bodhi can't really handle this
'one build, many releases' thing, so pjones just puts it through Bodhi
for one release (F41 in this case) and then releng manually tags it
into the others.
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