On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 5:22 PM Adam Williamson <adamw...@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> updates-testing is not enabled by default for the upgrade.
>
> The upgrade process uses whatever repos are enabled *in the current
> configuration*. So in the "typical" case, you are upgrading from a
> stable Fedora release with default repo configuration, in which
> updates-testing is not enabled. Thus updates-testing is not used for
> the upgrade.
>

This didn't occur to me, you're right. We could update our instructions to
tell people to use "--enablerepo=updates-testing" when upgrading to a
development release, or at least add it if they see broken dependencies and
the upgrade fails to start, but only limited people would find those
instructions. It's definitely better in general to fix those packages in
the main repo.


> I'd like to propose an alternative change: we should make clean FTI
> cases "automatic freeze exceptions". By "clean" I mean cases where the
> package was, practically speaking, useless before the fix. Cases where
> it's just one subpackage of a larger package that was FTI should still
> be manually checked, especially if the changes are larger than just a
> straight targeted fix to that subpackage (e.g. a version bump).
>

That sounds reasonable. But would we trust packagers to include this
important information ("this is not a simple case...") in their FE
proposal, or would we still manually check case-by-case?
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