Hi Adam,

Thank you so much for replying, it helped a lot!

--
Best regards,
Beatriz

Santa Catarina State University - UDESC

Em dom., 20 de jun. de 2021 às 03:45, Adam Williamson <
adamw...@fedoraproject.org> escreveu:

> On Sat, 2021-06-19 at 13:53 -0300, Beatriz Michelson Reichert wrote:
> >  Hi Adam, thank you for replying, it helped a lot!
> >
> > I have some more questions about the composes and Koji, and would like to
> > know if you could help me with the questions about this subject too:
> >
> >    1. What repository does Koji forward the build of a package and the
> RPMs
> >    to?
> >    2. The nightly compose process receives some package builds as input.
> >    What repository are these builds in? Is it the same repository as the
> >    previous question?
> >    3. The candidate compose process receives the candidate packages
> (stable
> >    packages) as input. What repository are these candidate packages in?
>
> Hi Beatriz! So these questions are sort of...backwards, in a sense. The
> compose processes are what *produce* the repositories. Koji doesn't
> exactly build packages and then put them in a repository.
>
> Well, technically there is a repo metadata 'view' of each Koji tag. You
> can find those at kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/ - each tag has a
> directory there, and you can find repodata under each directory which
> gives you a repo 'view' of the latest builds for that tag. But those
> are not things that are really intended to be consumed by Fedora users
> or testers in most typical workflows.
>
> I think the best way to think of it in terms of how most processes work
> is that Koji builds packages and then they just sort of...sit in Koji
> to be used as inputs to other things. A "compose" is the mechanism by
> which we take builds from Koji and produce the things that Fedora users
> 'consume', including images and the formal public-facing repositories.
>
> So, just running a build in Koji does not necessarily result in it
> appearing in any conventionally-public-facing repository. For Rawhide
> there are some convenience mechanisms hooked up so when a packager does
> a build the "usual" way, it automatically gets tagged for Rawhide and
> included in the next compose, but even that can be avoided if desired.
> For a build to appear in a public repo, some kind of compose step has
> to happen in between.
>
> To answer q2 directly - the nightly compose process for Rawhide and
> Branched uses the packages tagged with the stable tag for the release
> in question. So currently Rawhide composes use all packages tagged
> 'f35'. When F35 branches, Branched composes will use all packages
> tagged 'f35' and Rawhide composes will use all packages tagged 'f36'.
>
> The composes that are run regularly to update the stable release update
> repositories use the '-updates' tags - so when we run a compose to
> update the F34 stable updates repo, for instance, it uses all packages
> tagged 'f34-updates'. (There are also composes run to update the
> updates-testing repositories for stable releases and Branched; these
> use the 'fXX-updates-testing' tags, not surprisingly). When a stable
> release update is "pushed stable" via Bodhi, what actually *happens*
> that makes it ultimately show up in the public stable updates repo is
> that it has the 'fXX-updates' tag applied to it in Koji, so the next
> stable update compose run pulls it in. (For Branched and Rawhide, when
> an update is 'pushed stable' via Bodhi, it has the fXX' tag applied, so
> the next nightly compose pulls it in).
>
> Note that your q2 and q3 are phrased slightly wrong, btw. It's nightly
> composes that use "[all] stable packages" as input. Those composes are
> automated and use *only* the packages tagged 'f35' or 'f36' or
> whatever. Candidate composes can potentially pull in additional
> packages. The difference between a candidate compose and a nightly
> compose is some slightly different naming, configuration and metadata
> produced by running the compose tool differently, *plus* the potential
> to manually include packages that have not yet been 'pushed stable',
> which is done by releng by hand. Here's an example from the last
> release:
>
> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10093#comment-729024
>
> that was the candidate compose request I filed that resulted in F34
> Final RC2 being built, which is ultimately what was released as F34
> Final. As you can see, I listed 9 updates to be included in the compose
> which were not 'stable' at the time. The automated nightly compose run
> on the same day would not have included those updates. In order to
> include them, releng would have tagged them into a side repository that
> is included in the candidate compose configuration before running the
> compose. I actually forget what that repo is called :P Again, mboddu
> could tell you. All of the above is my best recollection/understanding,
> btw - if Mohan or Kevin Fenzi tell you something different, they're
> probably right.
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