On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:59 PM Kamil Paral <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 2:20 PM Lukas Ruzicka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello friends of Fedora,
>>
>> I have been thinking about a proposal to modify the %subj.
>>
>
> It's good to link to the existing version, so that people can compare:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_34_Beta_Release_Criteria#Working_sound
>
>
>> I have tried several version and I did not like any, so finally I am
>> proposing this text:
>>
>> *Working sound*
>>
>> *The installed system must be able to play back and record audio.*
>>
>
> This probably needs something like "(if relevant hardware is present)"
> appended to it (or in a footnote). And we should keep the existing
> "System-specific bugs" footnote from the current criterion.
>
> I believe the proposed change is good for two main reasons:
> 1. I don't see a reason to limit the criterion to just gstreamer-based
> applications, as it currently is.
> 2. Audio recording has grown in importance immensely in the last year due
> to teleconferencing and we should cover it in criteria.
>
> So I'm fine with the proposal.
>
> There's a question whether this should stay in Beta or be moved to Final,
> since it covers more use cases in the new version. Personally I think it's
> OK to keep this in Beta, because, quoting from the footnote, "It is meant
> to cover bugs which completely prevent sound playback from working in any
> hardware configuration". Less clear-cut cases can be decided as Final
> during blocker review, and we also still have the Default application
> functionality [1] for Final, which furthermore covers some important apps
> by itself.
>

One additional thought, I would also be OK with keeping "sound output must
work" criterion for Beta, and "sound recording must work" criterion for
Final. That also seems reasonable.

Is there no-one else who has any opinion on all this? Where is everybody? 🔭
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