On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:37 AM Rodger Etz <r...@brownsen.net> wrote: > > Thanks, Chris! I did so, but reboot did not create a debugdata dir. Therefore > I have uploaded the dnf logs. > > From what I have seen so far, it still seems the best option to modify > system-upgrade so it safes the transaction before reboot and reboot reruns it > ... or something similar. > > Trying to figure out what obscure dependency constellation this is causing, > will be painful and most likely fail, because we do not have enough > information and the state of dependencies changes so quickly, the issue might > not occur after the next update of those packages. And even if we find this > particular one, it might be there are others as well. > > Is it worth it to start a discussion on devel@ ?
Yes. The questions are, is it working as intended and is there a way to make it work better? Also I'm curious if the behavior of 'dnf system-upgrade' differs from gnome-software/PackageKit method. I don't think this problem can be release blocking for two reasons: the Beta criterion for upgrades is narrowly written to exclude anything that makes it "not clean" and 3rd party stuff definitely isn't covered. "For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete a direct upgrade from a fully updated, clean default installation of each of the last two stable Fedora releases with that package set installed." Further, a note for that says: "This criterion applies to the recommended upgrade mechanisms only." And per: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading/ Only Gnome Software is "recommended" for Workstation. All other Fedora editions and variants, dnf is recommended. Practically I think we'd probably block on dnf system-upgrade bugs because chances are any breakage on Workstation will affect other Fedora products. But if it were true that a bug only affected Workstation and no other Fedora product; and also the bug didn't happen with Gnome Software, would we block? Hmmm. Entertaining. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org