On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com>
wrote:

> On 05/22/2017 10:13 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Currently we have the following as a final blocker criterion:
> >
> > "All applications installed by default in Fedora Workstation must comply
> with each MUST and MUST NOT guideline in the Applications and Launchers
> policy."
> >
> > That policy is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Guidelines/
> Applications_and_Launchers
> >
> > We recently noticed that we don't have an available blocker criterion to
> deal with issues where an application unexpectedly appears in the default
> install. In particular, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
> show_bug.cgi?id=1449752 which has prompted this. We want the blivet-gui
> package maintainers to either create a subpackage for its desktop file, or
> otherwise figure something out to prevent blivet-gui from appearing as an
> application in our default install. The package maintainers do not want to
> do this, so we want a blocker criterion to force a resolution. I see two
> easy solutions here:
> >
> >  * We could add a new blocker criterion that explicitly says the
> Workstation WG gets to decide which applications are installed by default.
> >  * We could add that as a MUST guideline to our applications and
> launchers policy, since there is already a blocker criterion that covers
> that.
>

I think adding it to the policy is fine. However, please note that you
should either maintain a list of approved applications on the wiki, so that
we can check it from time to time, or you need to police that yourselves
and let us know (propose a blocker) when something like that happens (the
latter is better for us, of course).


> >
> > I'm planning to do the later and then propose this blivet-gui bug as a
> blocker. Is the QA team OK with this course of action? Do you prefer to
> just add a new criterion?
>
> I can't seem to find the original decision (it's been a few years of
> meetings
> now), but I'm pretty sure that FESCo actually ruled that the WGs have the
> right
> to declare a blocker to their Edition by fiat. So if the Workstation WG
> feels
> that the inclusion of the blivet-gui desktop file is unacceptable for the
> Workstation Edition, I *think* they can just declare it so.
>

If that turns out to be true, then it might be the easiest approach. Just
file a blocker proposal and describe what's wrong and that you're applying
your WG veto, and we'll auto-accept it. Of course, you can still add the
policy to the wiki (so that it's documented).


>
> CCing the FESCo list for anyone else there to chime in. (We also always
> have the
> option of FESCo making this declaration on your behalf as well.)
>
>
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