Hi Adam, my configuration is F25 on an USB 3.0 Flash medium, 64GB, connected to the Laptop via USB 3.0. I use a 32GB USB 3.0 Flash medium for the F24 installation, which quick, as it would have been installed on the internal harddisk, my Laptop has 8GB Ram. So it's possible that I have made a "bad" F25 installation, and if not then the USB 3.0 "connection" is in F25 worse then in F24. I will keep this "bad" installation for eventually needed later investigation, and make a new install of F25 on an other 32GB USB 3.0 medium, then I can say If that, what I currently have is only a bad installation, or F25 is slow in an installation on an USB 3.0 flash medium. I need a little bit of time, to make a new installation. Kind regards
-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Adam Pribyl <pri...@lowlevel.cz> An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test@lists.fedoraproject.org> Verschickt: Do, 2. Mrz 2017 13:40 Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better If this is a wall clock, then the update took 49minutes right? This is really weired. Download speed indicated the download took 2.4 minutes. This looks to me like some extremely slow access to hard drive to resolve all dependencies, rebuild delta RPM and then install them. Do you use SSD or HDD? What does the hdparm -tT /dev/sda (if sda is your primary disk) says? smartctl output may also be interesting. On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Joerg Lechner wrote: > Hi, > investigation of the first action point: "dnf update" takes too much time in > F25. > I made timestamps by my watch not by the system. > > start of dnf update 09:48 > > [joerg@linux ~]$ su > Passwort: > [root@linux joerg]# dnf update > Letzte Prüfung auf abgelaufene Metadaten: vor 0:06:22 am Thu Mar 2 09:41:58 > 2017. > Abhängigkeiten sind aufgelöst. > ================================================================================ > Package Arch Version Paketquelle > Größe > ================================================================================ > Installieren: > kernel x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25 updates 96 k > kernel-core x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25 updates 20 M > kernel-modules x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25 updates 22 M > kernel-modules-extra x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25 updates 2.2 M > libglvnd x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates 89 k > libglvnd-egl x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates 43 k > libglvnd-gles x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates 31 k > libglvnd-glx x86_64 1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25 updates 124 k > Aktualisieren: > NetworkManager-openvpn x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25 updates 237 k > NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome > x86_64 1:1.2.8-2.fc25 updates 91 k > audit x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25 updates 243 k > audit-libs x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25 updates 106 k > audit-libs-python x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25 updates 77 k > audit-libs-python3 x86_64 2.7.3-1.fc25 updates 76 k > breeze-icon-theme noarch 5.31.0-1.fc25 updates 8.3 M > copy-jdk-configs noarch 2.2-2.fc25 updates 19 k > fedora-repos noarch 25-2 updates 88 k > gnome-autoar x86_64 0.2.0-1.fc25 updates 49 k > gnome-terminal x86_64 3.22.1-5.fc25 updates 1.2 M > gspell x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc25 updates 81 k > gstreamer1 x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 updates 1.2 M > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free > x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 updates 1.8 M > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk > x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 updates 32 k > gstreamer1-plugins-base x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 updates 1.5 M > gstreamer1-plugins-good x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 updates 2.0 M > ibus-typing-booster noarch 1.5.22-1.fc25 updates 3.8 M > kde-style-breeze x86_64 5.8.6-1.fc25 updates 179 k > kernel-headers x86_64 4.9.12-200.fc25 updates 1.1 M > kf5-filesystem x86_64 5.31.0-1.fc25 updates 15 k > libblockdev x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 85 k > libblockdev-btrfs x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 41 k > libblockdev-crypto x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 43 k > libblockdev-dm x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 41 k > libblockdev-fs x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 42 k > libblockdev-kbd x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 45 k > libblockdev-loop x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 39 k > libblockdev-lvm x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 48 k > libblockdev-mdraid x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 43 k > libblockdev-mpath x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 40 k > libblockdev-part x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 45 k > libblockdev-plugins-all x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 34 k > libblockdev-swap x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 39 k > libblockdev-utils x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 41 k > libnetfilter_conntrack x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25 updates 58 k > libva x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25 updates 89 k > mesa-dri-drivers x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 11 M > mesa-filesystem x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 24 k > mesa-libEGL x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 103 k > mesa-libGL x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 165 k > mesa-libGLES x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 22 k > mesa-libgbm x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 42 k > mesa-libglapi x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 50 k > mesa-libwayland-egl x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 25 k > mesa-libxatracker x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 updates 1.4 M > open-vm-tools x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25 updates 666 k > open-vm-tools-desktop x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25 updates 159 k > openssh x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25 updates 476 k > openssh-clients x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25 updates 657 k > openssh-server x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25 updates 464 k > osinfo-db noarch 20170225-1.fc25 updates 134 k > ostree x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25 updates 179 k > ostree-libs x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25 updates 255 k > oxygen-icon-theme noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25 updates 29 M > pciutils x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25 updates 100 k > pciutils-libs x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25 updates 50 k > pcre x86_64 8.40-5.fc25 updates 200 k > pcre-utf16 x86_64 8.40-5.fc25 updates 190 k > pcre2 x86_64 10.23-2.fc25 updates 210 k > perl-threads x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25 updates 58 k > perl-threads-shared x86_64 1.55-1.fc25 updates 44 k > publicsuffix-list-dafsa noarch 20170206-1.fc25 updates 44 k > python3-blockdev x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 updates 44 k > python3-gstreamer1 x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 updates 108 k > python3-rpm x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 updates 105 k > qca x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25 updates 451 k > rpm x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 updates 517 k > rpm-build-libs x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 updates 121 k > rpm-libs x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 updates 304 k > rpm-plugin-selinux x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 updates 57 k > rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 updates 57 k > selinux-policy noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25 updates 487 k > selinux-policy-targeted noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25 updates 8.7 M > sos noarch 3.3-1.fc25 updates 397 k > systemd x86_64 231-14.fc25 updates 2.8 M > systemd-container x86_64 231-14.fc25 updates 412 k > systemd-libs x86_64 231-14.fc25 updates 421 k > systemd-pam x86_64 231-14.fc25 updates 178 k > systemd-udev x86_64 231-14.fc25 updates 1.3 M > texlive-base noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25 updates 1.4 M > texlive-dvipng noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1 updates 57 k > texlive-dvipng-bin x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates 80 k > texlive-kpathsea noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1 updates 159 k > texlive-kpathsea-bin x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates 56 k > texlive-lib x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25 updates 452 k > texlive-metafont noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1 updates 134 k > texlive-metafont-bin x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates 220 k > texlive-tetex noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1 updates 118 k > texlive-tetex-bin noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1 > updates 34 k > texlive-texlive.infra noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1 updates 165 k > texlive-texlive.infra-bin x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1 updates 32 k > tracker x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25 updates 1.4 M > vim-minimal x86_64 2:8.0.386-1.fc25 updates 517 k > xdg-desktop-portal-gtk x86_64 0.5-3.fc25 updates 104 k > xen-libs x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25 updates 635 k > xen-licenses x86_64 4.7.1-9.fc25 updates 108 k > xorg-x11-drv-wacom x86_64 0.34.0-4.fc25 updates 311 k > Entfernen: > kernel x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25 @updates 0 > kernel-core x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25 @updates 53 M > kernel-modules x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25 @updates 22 M > kernel-modules-extra x86_64 4.9.7-201.fc25 @updates 2.0 M > > Transaktionsübersicht > ================================================================================ > Installieren 8 Pakete > Aktualisieren 98 Pakete > Entfernen 4 Pakete > > Gesamte Downloadgröße: 136 M > Ist dies in Ordnung? [j/N]: j > Pakete werden heruntergeladen: > (1/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome-1.2.8-1.f 387 kB/s | 40 kB 00:00 > (2/106): NetworkManager-openvpn-1.2.8-1.fc25_1. 512 kB/s | 61 kB 00:00 > (3/106): audit-libs-python3-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3- 505 kB/s | 18 kB 00:00 > (4/106): audit-libs-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1.fc25.x 141 kB/s | 20 kB 00:00 > (5/106): audit-libs-python-2.7.2-2.fc25_2.7.3-1 174 kB/s | 17 kB 00:00 > ...... > ......... > ........ > ........ > [DRPM] systemd-udev-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig > [DRPM] systemd-231-12.fc25_231-14.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig > [DRPM] texlive-base-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch.drpm: > Fertig > [DRPM] texlive-metafont-svn40793-30.fc25_svn40793-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: > Fertig > [DRPM] texlive-texlive.infra-svn41280-30.fc25_svn41280-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: > Fertig > [DRPM] texlive-lib-2016-30.20160520.fc25_2016-32.20160520.fc25.x86_64.drpm: > Fertig > [DRPM] xen-libs-4.7.1-8.fc25_4.7.1-9.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig > [DRPM] texlive-tetex-svn41059-30.fc25_svn41059-32.fc25.1.noarch.drpm: Fertig > [DRPM] tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25_1.10.5-1.fc25.x86_64.drpm: Fertig > [DRPM] oxygen-icon-theme-5.29.0-1.fc25_5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch.drpm: Fertig > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gesamt 475 kB/s | 70 MB 02:30 > Delta RPMs reduziert 136.1 MB Aktualisierungen auf 69.9 MB (48.1% gespart) > Transaktionsüberprüfung wird ausgeführt > Transaktionsprüfung war erfolgreich. > Transaktion wird getestet > Transaktionstest war erfolgreich. > Transaktion wird ausgeführt > Aktualisieren : libblockdev-utils-1.9-9.fc25.x86_64 1/208 > Aktualisieren : texlive-base-6:2016-32.20160520.fc25.noarch 2/208 > Aktualisieren : systemd-libs-231-14.fc25.x86_64 3/208 > Aktualisieren : gstreamer1-1.10.4-1.fc25.x86_64 4/208 > Aktualisieren : audit-libs-2.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64 5/208 > Aktualisieren : systemd-pam-231-14.fc25.x86_64 6/208 > ......... > ......... > ......... > Aktualisieren : gspell-1.2.3-1.fc25.x86_64 102/208 > Aktualisieren : gnome-autoar-0.2.0-1.fc25.x86_64 103/208 > Aktualisieren : fedora-repos-25-2.noarch 104/208 > Aktualisieren : copy-jdk-configs-2.2-2.fc25.noarch 105/208 > Aktualisieren : breeze-icon-theme-5.31.0-1.fc25.noarch 106/208 > > > timestamp 10:21 > > > > Aufräumen : libblockdev-plugins-all-1.9-8.fc25.x86_64 107/208 > Aufräumen : gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64 108/208 > Aufräumen : python3-rpm-4.13.0-6.fc25.x86_64 109/208 > Aufräumen : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk-1.10.3-1.fc25.x8 110/208 > Aufräumen : texlive-dvipng-bin-6:svn40473-30.20160520.fc25.x 111/208 > Aufräumen : texlive-dvipng-6:svn40768-30.fc25.noarch 112/208 > Aufräumen : gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.10.3-1.fc25.x86_64 113/208 > Aufräumen : tracker-1.10.4-2.fc25.x86_64 114/208 > Aufräumen : ostree-2017.2-2.fc25.x86_64 115/208 > Aufräumen : openssh-server-7.4p1-2.fc25.x86_64 116/208 > Aufräumen : libva-1.7.3-1.fc25.x86_64 117/208 > Löschen : kernel-4.9.7-201.fc25.x86_64 118/208 > ....... > ....... > ........ > Aufräumen : libnetfilter_conntrack-1.0.4-6.fc24.x86_64 205/208 > Aufräumen : kde-style-breeze-5.8.5-1.fc25.x86_64 206/208 > Aufräumen : gspell-1.2.2-1.fc25.x86_64 207/208 > Aufräumen : gnome-autoar-0.1.1-1.fc25.x86_64 208/208 > > timestamp 10:37 > > > > Überprüfung läuft: kernel-core-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64 1/208 > Überprüfung läuft: kernel-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64 2/208 > Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-extra-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64 3/208 > Überprüfung läuft: kernel-modules-4.9.12-200.fc25.x86_64 4/208 > Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-egl-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64 5/208 > Überprüfung läuft: libglvnd-1:0.2.999-10.gitdc16f8c.fc25.x86_64 6/208 > ....... > ....... > ...... > libblockdev-mdraid.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > libblockdev-mpath.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > libblockdev-part.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > libblockdev-plugins-all.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > libblockdev-swap.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > libblockdev-utils.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > libnetfilter_conntrack.x86_64 1.0.6-2.fc25 > libva.x86_64 1.7.3-3.fc25 > mesa-dri-drivers.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-filesystem.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libEGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libGL.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libGLES.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libgbm.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libglapi.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libwayland-egl.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > mesa-libxatracker.x86_64 13.0.4-1.fc25 > open-vm-tools.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25 > open-vm-tools-desktop.x86_64 10.1.5-1.fc25 > openssh.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25 > openssh-clients.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25 > openssh-server.x86_64 7.4p1-3.fc25 > osinfo-db.noarch 20170225-1.fc25 > ostree.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25 > ostree-libs.x86_64 2017.2-3.fc25 > oxygen-icon-theme.noarch 1:5.31.0-1.fc25 > pciutils.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25 > pciutils-libs.x86_64 3.5.4-1.fc25 > pcre.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25 > pcre-utf16.x86_64 8.40-5.fc25 > pcre2.x86_64 10.23-2.fc25 > perl-threads.x86_64 1:2.15-1.fc25 > perl-threads-shared.x86_64 1.55-1.fc25 > publicsuffix-list-dafsa.noarch 20170206-1.fc25 > python3-blockdev.x86_64 1.9-9.fc25 > python3-gstreamer1.x86_64 1.10.4-1.fc25 > python3-rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 > qca.x86_64 2.1.3-3.fc25 > rpm.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 > rpm-build-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 > rpm-libs.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 > rpm-plugin-selinux.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 > rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit.x86_64 4.13.0.1-1.fc25 > selinux-policy.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25 > selinux-policy-targeted.noarch 3.13.1-225.11.fc25 > sos.noarch 3.3-1.fc25 > systemd.x86_64 231-14.fc25 > systemd-container.x86_64 231-14.fc25 > systemd-libs.x86_64 231-14.fc25 > systemd-pam.x86_64 231-14.fc25 > systemd-udev.x86_64 231-14.fc25 > texlive-base.noarch 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25 > texlive-dvipng.noarch 6:svn40768-32.fc25.1 > texlive-dvipng-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 > texlive-kpathsea.noarch 6:svn41139-32.fc25.1 > texlive-kpathsea-bin.x86_64 6:svn40473-32.20160520.fc25.1 > texlive-lib.x86_64 6:2016-32.20160520.fc25 > texlive-metafont.noarch 6:svn40793-32.fc25.1 > texlive-metafont-bin.x86_64 6:svn40987-32.20160520.fc25.1 > texlive-tetex.noarch 6:svn41059-32.fc25.1 > texlive-tetex-bin.noarch 6:svn36770.0-32.20160520.fc25.1 > texlive-texlive.infra.noarch 6:svn41280-32.fc25.1 > texlive-texlive.infra-bin.x86_64 6:svn40312-32.20160520.fc25.1 > tracker.x86_64 1.10.5-1.fc25 > > update finished at 10:37 > > Question: Are these update times ok, tolerable, or is this worthwhile for > filing a bug? > > My system is the same for F24 and F25. > Laptop, 1.7GHz, turbo boost up to 2.7 GHz > F25/F24 on an USB 3.0 flash medium, connected via USB 3.0 to the Laptop > Network: Cable TV internet, download 50GB/sec > > The other problems (USB connected disks, usb flash media), there I am > possibly one of very few users, I will make these investigations next time > and report. > Kind regards > > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> > An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases > <test@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Verschickt: Mi, 1. Mrz 2017 14:45 > Betreff: Re: F25 much more worse then F24, I hope F26 will be better > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:19:18AM -0500, Joerg Lechner wrote:> - last dnf > update took far too much time> - shutdown process not tolerable, takes too > much time.> - usb connection erroneous. i.e. after copying to flash medium > or> external disk connected by an usb adapter in most trials, when I try> to > eject the usb connected medium, there - after a copying process is> finished > a long time ago - comes the message "usb medium in use",> this for ever. Also > after shutdown of F25 in some cases I had to> repair the usb connected medium > with a new partition table. Things> like that are not nice.These things seem > unlikely to actually be very version dependent andprobably are more to do > with the specific configuration. The first twocomplaints are not actionable — > the dnf problem might just be yournetwork, and without any detail, we don't > know what is holding up yoursystem's shutdown.The third is likely a kernel > issue, and may be something you can tune.Are you *sure* you don't have > anything from the externel disk in use?The /sbin/lsof command can tell you.Have you tried typing "sync" at the command line before attempting toeject the disk?-- Matthew Miller<mat...@fedoraproject.org>Fedora Project Leader_______________________________________________test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Odchozi zprava neobsahuje viry, protoze nebyla odeslana z Windows. Otestovano zdarma a legalne na OS Linux. (Proc pouzivat Linux - http://proc.linux.cz/). _______________________________________________test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
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