As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131223

Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-12-30 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting
(though likely to be cancelled).
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20131230. Thanks!

TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up
=======================================================================
        * "adamw to push the sanity check proposal out, group seems to
          approve" - this was done[1]
        * "adamw to check F19 and F18 commonbugs for issues that should
          be copied to F20" - this was done, and F19 commonbugs cleaned
          up a bit 

TOPIC: FedUp post-mortem
=======================================================================
        * There was a SNAFU with fedup on release day: fedup 0.8 was
          still in updates-testing for F18 and F19 on the day of
          release, and it turned out upgrades to F20 with fedup 0.7 and
          the release upgrade.img do not work
        * Upgrades with 0.8 work fine, this was communicated via Common
          Bugs[2] and various other means
        * adamw changed the fedup test cases to recommend testing
          latest stable fedup (instead of updates-testing) against the
          current TC/RC tree (not development/ tree)
        * It was noted by multiple parties that short RC lifetime is an
          invitation to issues like the thinp and fedup bugs 

TOPIC: Storage validation
=======================================================================

        * Storage validation planning continues on list, there seems to
          be broad agreement to try and cover guided partitioning
          extensively and custom with a small(ish) 'must work' matrix
          and a larger 'bonus credit' matrix
        * cmurf was working on a mail to anaconda list proposing a
          restriction on the breadth of custom partitioning coverage 

TOPIC: Open floor
=======================================================================
        * roshi and danofsatx working on a draft[3] for an improved
          onboarding process
        * cmurf suggests working with docs folks to highlight
          'recommended' custom layouts 

Action items
=======================================================================
        * adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email

1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119558.html
2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#fedup-07-fail
3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Join
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